2020 Election
Oct 16th 2019, 5:30 pm
#1036
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Re: 2020 Election
Who can say? We're still 3 months out from Iowa. Anything can happen between now and then. I still think Mayor Pete has the better shot of the Midwesterners though.
Oct 16th 2019, 5:31 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
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Given the absurdity that is Trump, and the fact he won't expand his base, all they really need to do is put up someone who sounds as if they care a bit and won't go full Bernie (sorry, alongside the crazy finger wagging, he has a use in life and it's to protest).
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Given the absurdity that is Trump, and the fact he won't expand his base, all they really need to do is put up someone who sounds as if they care a bit and won't go full Bernie (sorry, alongside the crazy finger wagging, he has a use in life and it's to protest).
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Oct 17th 2019, 1:08 am
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Re: 2020 Election
Agreed. There's probably only room for one of Klobuchar and Buttigieg and the latter is looking stronger. Really, with so many primary votes at stake so early this time, I think the odds are overwhelmingly on one of Biden/Sanders/Warren. I would like to think that Buttigieg can get in the mix too, especially if Biden's support continues to erode.
Oct 17th 2019, 6:01 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
What's your point? That he shouldn't be allowed to run for president? He should be drawn and quartered? Hanged in the public square? He's stating his platform and I'm impressed by the fact that he seems to know that it is politically disastrous.
If you don't agree with him, then don't vote for him. How is he any more crazy than the sick bastards who run on the platform of outlawing abortion to the point of forcing women (and little girls) to carry pregnancies to term even in the case of rape and incest? Abortion is legal yet they want to make it illegal. Assault weapons are legal and O'Rourke wants to make them illegal. Get over it.
Oct 17th 2019, 6:06 pm
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Oct 18th 2019, 1:52 am
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Re: 2020 Election
What's your point? That he shouldn't be allowed to run for president? He should be drawn and quartered? Hanged in the public square? He's stating his platform and I'm impressed by the fact that he seems to know that it is politically disastrous.
If you don't agree with him, then don't vote for him. How is he any more crazy than the sick bastards who run on the platform of outlawing abortion to the point of forcing women (and little girls) to carry pregnancies to term even in the case of rape and incest? Abortion is legal yet they want to make it illegal. Assault weapons are legal and O'Rourke wants to make them illegal. Get over it.
If you don't agree with him, then don't vote for him. How is he any more crazy than the sick bastards who run on the platform of outlawing abortion to the point of forcing women (and little girls) to carry pregnancies to term even in the case of rape and incest? Abortion is legal yet they want to make it illegal. Assault weapons are legal and O'Rourke wants to make them illegal. Get over it.
Oct 18th 2019, 11:10 am
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Re: 2020 Election
What's your point? That he shouldn't be allowed to run for president? He should be drawn and quartered? Hanged in the public square? He's stating his platform and I'm impressed by the fact that he seems to know that it is politically disastrous.
If you don't agree with him, then don't vote for him. How is he any more crazy than the sick bastards who run on the platform of outlawing abortion to the point of forcing women (and little girls) to carry pregnancies to term even in the case of rape and incest? Abortion is legal yet they want to make it illegal. Assault weapons are legal and O'Rourke wants to make them illegal. Get over it.
If you don't agree with him, then don't vote for him. How is he any more crazy than the sick bastards who run on the platform of outlawing abortion to the point of forcing women (and little girls) to carry pregnancies to term even in the case of rape and incest? Abortion is legal yet they want to make it illegal. Assault weapons are legal and O'Rourke wants to make them illegal. Get over it.
Oct 18th 2019, 11:59 am
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Re: 2020 Election
The problem is that he is dragging the debate away from the electable position where Dems can draw on moderate Republicans as well as their typical base.
Its a pie in the sky idea too. We could get an assault weapons ban yes, but not a total seizure of the ones out there, and openly saying ‘hell yes we’re going to take your guns’ makes a good number of electorate nervous.
I was an O’Routke supporter at first, but this ‘come to Jesus’ moment that’s he’s having has turned me off and make him a single issue platform that wouldn’t get elected dog catcher. I wish it weren’t true, but it is. The reason he’s saying he’ll never run for another public office is because he knows he’s made himself so toxic that he’s textbook unelectable in TX.
Its a pie in the sky idea too. We could get an assault weapons ban yes, but not a total seizure of the ones out there, and openly saying ‘hell yes we’re going to take your guns’ makes a good number of electorate nervous.
I was an O’Routke supporter at first, but this ‘come to Jesus’ moment that’s he’s having has turned me off and make him a single issue platform that wouldn’t get elected dog catcher. I wish it weren’t true, but it is. The reason he’s saying he’ll never run for another public office is because he knows he’s made himself so toxic that he’s textbook unelectable in TX.
Oct 18th 2019, 3:50 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
The problem is that he is dragging the debate away from the electable position where Dems can draw on moderate Republicans as well as their typical base.
Its a pie in the sky idea too. We could get an assault weapons ban yes, but not a total seizure of the ones out there, and openly saying ‘hell yes we’re going to take your guns’ makes a good number of electorate nervous.
I was an O’Routke supporter at first, but this ‘come to Jesus’ moment that’s he’s having has turned me off and make him a single issue platform that wouldn’t get elected dog catcher. I wish it weren’t true, but it is. The reason he’s saying he’ll never run for another public office is because he knows he’s made himself so toxic that he’s textbook unelectable in TX.
Its a pie in the sky idea too. We could get an assault weapons ban yes, but not a total seizure of the ones out there, and openly saying ‘hell yes we’re going to take your guns’ makes a good number of electorate nervous.
I was an O’Routke supporter at first, but this ‘come to Jesus’ moment that’s he’s having has turned me off and make him a single issue platform that wouldn’t get elected dog catcher. I wish it weren’t true, but it is. The reason he’s saying he’ll never run for another public office is because he knows he’s made himself so toxic that he’s textbook unelectable in TX.
Oct 18th 2019, 3:53 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
Of the 12 that debated this week, 8 of them have already qualified for the November debate. O'Rourke is not one of them, and I believe he still needs 3% in 3 polls to qualify.
Oct 19th 2019, 3:13 am
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Re: 2020 Election
Hillary Clinton suggests Russia is grooming Tulsi Gabbard for third-party run
The Hawaii lawmaker responded by slamming the former first lady as "the queen of warmongers."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...e-u-s-n1068786
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill confirmed that the former secretary of state was referring to Gabbard. Gabbard, who has previously said she would not run as a third-party candidate, fired back on Twitter.
"Thank you @HillaryClinton," Gabbard
. "You, the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party for so long, have finally come out from behind the curtain. From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose."
"It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me," Gabbard continued. "Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly."
And we have a year to go!
The Hawaii lawmaker responded by slamming the former first lady as "the queen of warmongers."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...e-u-s-n1068786
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...russias-050991
Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill confirmed that the former secretary of state was referring to Gabbard. Gabbard, who has previously said she would not run as a third-party candidate, fired back on Twitter.
"Thank you @HillaryClinton," Gabbard
"It’s now clear that this primary is between you and me," Gabbard continued. "Don’t cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly."
And we have a year to go!
Oct 19th 2019, 4:59 am
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