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Old Nov 13th 2020, 9:28 pm
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Are the mods not deleting such posts? I played around on my Nextdoor in AZ for a while, and every 'political' post got deleted (eventually) as well as most 'wild' covid-19 related posts (anti-mask, mainly). I'm scared to log on now as I've been away from it for months ...
It seems like there's far fewer of these posts out there these days. It's a shame really, but it's not possible to have rational debate, it just devolves into madness and memes pretty quickly.
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I had asked this question earlier, no one seemed to have a definitive answer. Are ballot envelopes (which contain the signature) retained after having the enclosed ballot removed? The purpose of the question was, can they 'audit' the signature verification if needed. The answer would appear to be yes.

I just found this site - https://www.co.grand.co.us/DocumentC...cessing?bidId= that describes the ballot processing in great detail. I believe this is specific to Colorado.

Key bit ...
"The ballot envelopes, secrecy sleeves, and ballot stubs in the Tyvek envelopes are placed in secured storage boxes to be stored for 25 months following the election."
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
I had asked this question earlier, no one seemed to have a definitive answer. Are ballot envelopes (which contain the signature) retained after having the enclosed ballot removed? The purpose of the question was, can they 'audit' the signature verification if needed. The answer would appear to be yes.

I just found this site - https://www.co.grand.co.us/DocumentC...cessing?bidId= that describes the ballot processing in great detail. I believe this is specific to Colorado.

Key bit ...
"The ballot envelopes, secrecy sleeves, and ballot stubs in the Tyvek envelopes are placed in secured storage boxes to be stored for 25 months following the election."
step one - is the sig a match.to a registered voter at that address/ . check again. Bipartisan checkers.
step 2 remove ballot from envelope never to be associated with sig/name on envelope
.Does anyone think the secrecy envelopes are for nothing (Florida)
Does anyone think trump understands the Process
Is anyone surprised a senior repub not from Georgia, questioned the Georgia SOS on these points
****ing Hell. Ive only been here 15 years and I get it. Even the media seems to not quite understand. Maybe just being polite/respectfull
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Old Nov 18th 2020, 5:21 am
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Why has Twitter blocked trump from twittring? They must be biased.
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Old Nov 18th 2020, 8:07 am
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Calling out a couple of Repubs on the Wayne County Board of Canvasses. "When you go to meet your maker, you're going to find that your soul is very warm."
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Originally Posted by caretaker
Calling out a couple of Repubs on the Wayne County Board of Canvasses. "When you go to meet your maker, you're going to find that your soul is very warm."
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...m_source=share
At least in the end the election results were certified.
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Old Nov 18th 2020, 4:12 pm
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Why has Twitter blocked trump from twittring? They must be biased.
Either my research faculties have departed me or you've been on the Koolaid.
Plenty of news outlets have been reporting about whether Trump will be banned, and the reasons behind such a ban, once Trump leaves office but the twat is still dumping lies on Twitter.
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Either my research faculties have departed me or you've been on the Koolaid.
Plenty of news outlets have been reporting about whether Trump will be banned, and the reasons behind such a ban, once Trump leaves office but the twat is still dumping lies on Twitter.
i am no longer getting notifications. I did not change any settings!
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i am no longer getting notifications. I did not change any settings!
Why would you want to get notifications of Trump's garbage tweets??
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
I had asked this question earlier, no one seemed to have a definitive answer. Are ballot envelopes (which contain the signature) retained after having the enclosed ballot removed? The purpose of the question was, can they 'audit' the signature verification if needed. The answer would appear to be yes.

I just found this site - https://www.co.grand.co.us/DocumentC...cessing?bidId= that describes the ballot processing in great detail. I believe this is specific to Colorado.

Key bit ...
"The ballot envelopes, secrecy sleeves, and ballot stubs in the Tyvek envelopes are placed in secured storage boxes to be stored for 25 months following the election."
Oregon's envelopes and all ballot material are stored for 2 years. It is all in Oregon Vote By Mail Procedures Manual which is a PDF and I can't copy the link to post it. 58 pages of how to run a vote by mail election, which is all Oregon has done since I think 1999.
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At least in the end the election results were certified.
Do you think they should have been. They have a number of precincts where the number of ballots counted doesn't match the number of people who voted, and their explanation is it happens every election. I'm a democrat and I wouldn't have voted to certify it without a much better explanation. A mismatch by 1 or 2 in a couple of precincts, but not what they had.
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Do you think they should have been. They have a number of precincts where the number of ballots counted doesn't match the number of people who voted, and their explanation is it happens every election. I'm a democrat and I wouldn't have voted to certify it without a much better explanation. A mismatch by 1 or 2 in a couple of precincts, but not what they had.
I’d want to see a detailed breakdown of these mismatches, and how it compares with the norm across different states and different elections.

Seems to me, in past elections, all sorts of minor discrepancies were accepted in a spirit of give and take. In this election, one side only (republicans) decided on a policy of no tolerance. More than that, they made stuff up and accepted conspiracy theories uncritically.
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i may have followed him. Beside the point.
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Originally Posted by robin1234
I’d want to see a detailed breakdown of these mismatches, and how it compares with the norm across different states and different elections.

Seems to me, in past elections, all sorts of minor discrepancies were accepted in a spirit of give and take. In this election, one side only (republicans) decided on a policy of no tolerance. More than that, they made stuff up and accepted conspiracy theories uncritically.
It seems for Wayne County it was fairly normal to have mismatches in a large number of precincts, which I doubt in the past and now were caused by anything other than incompetence rather than shenanigans. But when you have one side looking for any excuse why give them ammunition.

I read last night that in one precinct Wayne County had 27 more ballots than people who voted. That is not acceptable.
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Originally Posted by lansbury
Do you think they should have been. They have a number of precincts where the number of ballots counted doesn't match the number of people who voted, and their explanation is it happens every election. I'm a democrat and I wouldn't have voted to certify it without a much better explanation. A mismatch by 1 or 2 in a couple of precincts, but not what they had.
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I’d want to see a detailed breakdown of these mismatches, and how it compares with the norm across different states and different elections.

Seems to me, in past elections, all sorts of minor discrepancies were accepted in a spirit of give and take. In this election, one side only (republicans) decided on a policy of no tolerance. More than that, they made stuff up and accepted conspiracy theories uncritically.
I've been reading about this one all morning. I can't seem to find reasonable information about the number of discrepancies. Seems like every precinct had discrepancies, but the two Rep's only wanted to discount the votes from Wayne, which is predominantly black/Dem. They ultimately agreed to certify because - it would seem - the numbers of discrepancies was not large enough to affect the outcome of the vote. But there seems to be a lack of focus on this aspect so far, from what I'm reading. Specifically, it would seem like the discrepancies as a percentage of the total for the precinct would be relevant. Sadly, this has become yet another source of 'noise' for the conspiracy theorists.
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