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Re: 2020 Election
What's the latest flavor of 'free education' from Bernie? At first I thought it was 'free for everyone' but I just read this from 2017 - https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/bern...ica-great.html
This year, Sanders introduced the College for All Act, which aims to make colleges and universities tuition-free for families that earn $125,000 per year or less. That, he notes, covers 86 percent of the population Also - just curious how this is supposed to work. As I understand it, this only applies to 'non-private' colleges (that is, won't apply to Stanford, Yale, etc) but aren't such colleges mainly 'state' institutions? Eg, University of California, Arizona State University, etc? I understood these to be under the control of the state. So would this require the cooperation of the state colleges? Are there no issues here with 'states rights' etc? |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by civilservant
(Post 12641101)
Haven't you heard? Deficits don't matter! :rofl:
I'm more concerned about the veritable tsunami of corporate debt that will come due in the next 2-4 years then the Federal debt. The whole system is overloaded, which State will go bust first, Illinois seems to be considered the most likely. I have seen it mentioned that is is technically bust now. And when that happens there will be a cascade. A always understood the idea was to try and rectify in the good times so you have some room for manoeuvre when you hot the bad, but that seems to have been done away with. A massive dose of inflation to strip peoples savings has been the usual technique but that does not seem possible now. |
Re: 2020 Election
Most of the Democrats running make we want to change the channel as soon as they start talking. The only two who don't affect me this way are Bernie and Paul Buttigieg. There is one who makes me want to shoot my own TV. Sorry.
No idea what that means but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. We can argue minutia and ideology all day but if they don't inspire confidence in their own leadership abilities, nothing else matters. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12641097)
$22th in debt and heading into a recession.
Where is the money coming from? |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 12641131)
Most of the Democrats running make we want to change the channel as soon as they start talking. The only two who don't affect me this way are Bernie and Paul Buttigieg. There is one who makes me want to shoot my own TV. Sorry.
No idea what that means but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way. We can argue minutia and ideology all day but if they don't inspire confidence in their leadership abilities, nothing else matters. |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12641134)
Reversing the Trump tax cuts would be a good start.
When it is going up by that much every couple of years in the good time, what does that say? |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12641137)
Something has to be done, seems this was $3.2tn over 10 years.
When it is going up by that much every couple of years in the good time, what does that say? |
Re: 2020 Election
Something has to be done, seems this was $3.2tn over 10 years. Voila! Surplus! Get rid of Trumps tax cuts and we'll be well in the green. :sarcasm: |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Giantaxe
(Post 12641143)
Debt as percent of GDP is a more interesting figure.
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Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12641149)
Going up and up and up.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEGDQ188S |
Re: 2020 Election
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12641135)
In the current environment I question the sanity of anybody who would want to stand.
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Re: 2020 Election
Our new neighbors had a party this Sunday. Little kias and beaten up Subarus. Bernie stickers everywhere.
I thought Bernie wasn't a Dem. How does that work? My liberal friend is blowing up my phone with AOC photos and gifs. He thinks he's funny. Frankly - it's a welcome change from this vulgar Me Again Markle woman. |
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Gah! Stop it!
It's the one where's she dancing. I hates it. |
Re: 2020 Election
I'm sick of hearing about AOC. It's like she's the first Socialist ever.
Since when has one singular member of the House actually been able to accomplish anything anyway? |
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