2020 Election
Feb 8th 2020, 2:20 pm
#2056
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Re: 2020 Election
An interesting report on Iowa, seems all the errors coincidentally went against Bernie, sounds familiar.
Feb 8th 2020, 4:40 pm
#2057
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Re: 2020 Election
Warren is having problems in Nevada
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...ign/ar-BBZJSRP
Warren's comments come after a Politico report Thursday said six staffers had left Warren's Nevada campaign because of what is described in the story as a culture that "tokenized" minority voices.
She does not seem to have figured much in Iowa.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...ign/ar-BBZJSRP
Warren's comments come after a Politico report Thursday said six staffers had left Warren's Nevada campaign because of what is described in the story as a culture that "tokenized" minority voices.
She does not seem to have figured much in Iowa.
In the Politico story, they expressed concerns about the campaign's Latino outreach in Nevada, saying Spanish-language engagement efforts had been slow and in some cases nonexistent.
Feb 8th 2020, 7:15 pm
#2058
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Re: 2020 Election
No, it's not. The media has - correctly - focused on the SDE numbers because that's what decides the delegate count. It's only Sanders that ironically wants to use the popular vote. It'll be interesting to see whether this tactic gets repeated in other states where the popular vote isn't the sole determinant of the delegate count.
If the presidential candidates were the ones that read this forum you'd have a point. Funnily enough, they don't. So the audience for the use of the "Bernie Bros" pejorative on here is exactly the same as the audience for the pejoratives that you use on here and they are thus exactly equivalent. Imo, both the bros pejorative and the ones you use merely distract from rational debate. Why do it? Why not stick to cogent arguments as to why you think your preferred candidate is to be... well,, preferred?
So this is all because you think that it detracts from the debate. I don't know why it was so hard for you just to say that. That's your opinion, that's fine. I have laid out my reasons for not liking Bloomberg before, and to be honest, I just like to have a bit of fun at his expense as well. Sorry if it bothers you, but I'm sure he'll be OK.
Feb 8th 2020, 7:23 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
Democrats thought Trump would be an easy candidate to beat. Not sure getting advice on who is a good candidate from the other side is always the best choice.
Feb 8th 2020, 7:29 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
Another very strong debate from Klobuchar tonight. I find it frustrating that she's not getting more traction but Buttigieg is. The votes from Biden's implosion have to go somewhere and they are much more likely to go to a moderate candidate than they are to Sanders or Warren. Hopefully she can at least finish ahead of Biden in New Hampshire. At this point, Biden must be praying for a win in South Carolina, where the polls still have him way ahead.
There hasn't been any polling in SC after the Iowa results, so we'll have to wait to see if Biden experiences the same drop in support he has elsewhere.
Feb 8th 2020, 10:41 pm
#2061
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Re: 2020 Election
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/u...es-winner.html
It's not the reader of the insult, it's the target. If I were to say something racist but only white people heard it, does that mean it is then OK? So, yes it is different.
So this is all because you think that it detracts from the debate. I don't know why it was so hard for you just to say that. That's your opinion, that's fine. I have laid out my reasons for not liking Bloomberg before, and to be honest, I just like to have a bit of fun at his expense as well. Sorry if it bothers you, but I'm sure he'll be OK.
So this is all because you think that it detracts from the debate. I don't know why it was so hard for you just to say that. That's your opinion, that's fine. I have laid out my reasons for not liking Bloomberg before, and to be honest, I just like to have a bit of fun at his expense as well. Sorry if it bothers you, but I'm sure he'll be OK.
Last edited by Giantaxe; Feb 8th 2020 at 10:47 pm.
Feb 9th 2020, 1:24 pm
#2062
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Re: 2020 Election
This article, written before the caucus, shows the media surveyed were going to declare the winner based on SDEs, not the popular vote, Some campaigns, including Sanders' were more equivocal. But, really, if you can't see even a smidgeon of irony in a Democratic candidate touting a popular vote win when the goal of the election was to win delegates then you really need to at least lighten up and be less defensive when your preferred candidate is being discussed.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/u...es-winner.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/u...es-winner.html
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Feb 9th 2020, 4:26 pm
#2063
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Re: 2020 Election
Well no it's not ironic because there really isn't a comparison to 2016. Sanders claiming a win is pure political spin to build momentum as the nomination process goes on, and I would have expected any other campaign to do the same thing in the same circumstances. I also don't have a problem with Buttigieg claiming a win even when the results are still disputed. But when he claimed to be victorious before *any* results were know was tacky. Claiming a "popular vote" victory was all about Democrats being sad that they lost and trying to undermine Trump's victory. It's just a shame they didn't channel that sadness into making a concerted effort to abolish the electoral college. But there was no dispute about who the actual winner was in 2016.
Well, it sure seems like you have some kind of need to have the "last word". So go for it...
Feb 12th 2020, 12:00 am
#2064
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Re: 2020 Election
Biden looks like toast.
Yang is toast.
Yang is toast.
Last edited by kimilseung; Feb 12th 2020 at 12:02 am.
Feb 12th 2020, 12:12 am
#2065
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Re: 2020 Election
Mental Note- Don't send in ballot before mid February elections next time around.
Feb 12th 2020, 12:21 am
#2066
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Re: 2020 Election
Looks like Yang is out
Feb 12th 2020, 1:28 am
#2067
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Re: 2020 Election
Difficult to see how Bloomberg can stay in.
Feb 12th 2020, 1:54 am
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Re: 2020 Election
Hillary announcing her campaign in 3, 2, 1...
Feb 12th 2020, 8:37 pm
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Re: 2020 Election
Most people aren't informed enough to know about this, let alone have it affect their vote. It has to be something really big that lasts more than a news cycle, this was barely a blip on the radar for a day. Easily deflected in a debate that nobody will look into if they didn't already know about it.
The more I talk to people both in person and online, the more I see how little people know about the people they vote for. They vote for idiots because they never found out that they were an idiot in the first place.
The more I talk to people both in person and online, the more I see how little people know about the people they vote for. They vote for idiots because they never found out that they were an idiot in the first place.