Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11632889)

Any attempt to compare US left/right politics to European left/right politics and apply the same labels is doomed to failure. For example the Democrats are about as left wing as the Tory party.

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11634540)

Any attempt to compare the Republican and Democratic parties of today to those of any previous era and assume they are the same is also doomed to failure. They are not your daddy's parties so to speak.

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11634336)

Meh. Lighten up, all I said was you were talking crap about East Germany. I won't claim resposibility for what others said of course, and I won't pretend I was paying that much attention to it either.

Water off a duck's back and all that.



This, I know and it is why I got a little excited when Sanders said he was running for nomination. He strikes me as someone who genuinely does want reform, who does want to replace the ACA with a sensible single-payer system, who wants to improve infrastructure and create jobs. Most importantly for me, he seems to be the only candidate thus far who will vocally criticize the 'billionaire class' that has had a stranglehold on US politics for years, holding the country back beyond belief.

I'd like Elizabeth Warren to put her name forward too, to be honest. What I want isn't necessarily President Sanders but for enough progressive voices to speak up so the Democratic mainstream takes notice.



"Nutter" Republicans refers to the current crop. Eisenhower was a fine president, who had many common sense ideas and policies and quite honestly I'd be happy to vote for someone like him. Nixon had his moments, too. Christ, even the Dubya looks sane compared to the likes of Paul Ryan, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz :blink:

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11634540)

I have come up with an extension to my statement above.

Any attempt to compare the Republican and Democratic parties of today to those of any previous era and assume they are the same is also doomed to failure. They are not your daddy's parties so to speak.

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11636688)

Carly Fiorina - ruined HP, probably attack dog to go after Clinton without being called sexist.

Ben Carson - known idiot, opens mouth and inserts foot on regular basis.

Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius (Post 11636718)

Should be a walk in the park then. That comment about Ms. Fiorina, not sexist? A comment like that would work for Hillary. See, it only runs in one direction. :nod: [Explanation: If you point out that Fiorina ruined HP and call her an "attack dog," that's not sexist. If you say Hillary screwed up Benghazi and its aftermath, and the Russian reset, etc, etc., that's sexist.] Just saying. Call it "Democrat Privilege" similar to "White Privilege."

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11636737)

Should have clarified. What I wrote was a summary of what I was seeing as the general opinion of political commentary.

Could it be seen as sexist? Perhaps, but I don't think she is seen as a realistic candidate.

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11636737)

Should have clarified. What I wrote was a summary of what I was seeing as the general opinion of political commentary.

Could it be seen as sexist? Perhaps, but I don't think she is seen as a realistic candidate.

Originally Posted by username.exe (Post 11636867)

A few commentators are speculating that she's doing it for publicity for a forthcoming book.

The only other time she ran was for a California Senate seat five years ago and she lost that. At least the other republican candidates managed to get elected to something! (Even if they do have the odd screw loose).

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 11637786)

I like how everyone announces ahead of time that they are going to announce their run for presidency. I guess that announcing your announcement doesn't count.