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morpeth Dec 14th 2016 12:29 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12129401)
Hostility towards the right should be encouraged. Also towards stupid people, but I guess that's kind of redundant.

You are consistent I will say that !

morpeth Dec 14th 2016 12:39 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 12129436)
Seriously?

It's not just this forum, it's civilized society. I'm sick of explaining this to people who claim to be worldly adults.

A general rule for being a decent human ... the more vulnerable the group is then the less cool it is to show hostility toward them.

FFS

It's not illegal to be hostile to minority groups and nobody is trying to take away your rights. But you will be judged by what you say and how you say it. If somebody uses the "N" word in front of me, I don't scream or call 911 or shoot them, but I will never ever feel the same about them.

So the prior comment that "hostility towards the right should be encouraged" couldn't be taken as a hostile comment, or similar comments towards those with views different than the conventional views on this forum ?

As far as the right words to use on this forum so that people don't throw out accusations of being racist or hostile to minority groups or whatever, yes your point is well taken one has to be extremely careful what one says.

Actual I don't think hostility towards anyone is justified.

SultanOfSwing Dec 14th 2016 12:46 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12129445)
You are consistent I will say that !

I never try to misrepresent myself, or try to be something I'm not.

I might be an arsehole and a bit of a dick quite a lot of the time, but I'm not a liar. If I think someone's a twat, I also think they deserve to know. Goes for me too, I know what I am and there's no sense in skirting around it :nod:


Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12129450)
So the prior comment that "hostility towards the right should be encouraged" couldn't be taken as a hostile comment ...

You can take it any way you want, but if you think that was more hostile than, say yelling the N-word in a room full of black people, then perhaps you might want to rethink your definition of the word.

Leslie Dec 14th 2016 12:46 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12129450)
So the prior comment that "hostility towards the right should be encouraged" couldn't be taken as a hostile comment, or similar comments towards those with views different than the conventional views on this forum ?

As far as the right words to use on this forum so that people don't throw out accusations of being racist or hostile to minority groups or whatever, yes your point is well taken one has to be extremely careful what one says.

Actual I don't think hostility towards anyone is justified.

One in possession of an average IQ (or better) should be able to deconstruct this concept without help from others.

morpeth Dec 14th 2016 1:31 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12129457)
I never try to misrepresent myself, or try to be something I'm not.

I might be an arsehole and a bit of a dick quite a lot of the time, but I'm not a liar. If I think someone's a twat, I also think they deserve to know. Goes for me too, I know what I am and there's no sense in skirting around it :nod:



You can take it any way you want, but if you think that was more hostile than, say yelling the N-word in a room full of black people, then perhaps you might want to rethink your definition of the word.

completely agree, and definitely you always express your views directly and concisely

Anian Dec 15th 2016 2:11 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12129438)
Snowflakes?

Why is it that people who make fun of "safe spaces" are the ones who fly into a rage over someone saying "happy holidays" or a Starbucks cup? I actually prefer it if people retreat away quietly rather than burst a blood vessel when their opinions are challenged, even if they are both demonstrations of being unable to cope.

SultanOfSwing Dec 15th 2016 2:16 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12129784)
Why is it that people who make fun of "safe spaces" are the ones who fly into a rage over someone saying "happy holidays" or a Starbucks cup? I actually prefer it if people retreat away quietly rather than burst a blood vessel when their opinions are challenged, even if they are both demonstrations of being unable to cope.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, retreats to their 'safe spaces' as much as butthurt right wingers. We are going to have a man in charge of the most powerful country on earth who can't even handle mild constructive criticism, let alone the kind of scrutiny he is going to be held up to as leader of the US, FFS.

I have never met a 'social justice warrior' once in my entire life but I have met and do know a host of butthurt right wingers who will run for the hills at even the slightest sign of a hint of an idea that their world view is about to be challenged and even held up as incorrect.

Ebonhawke Dec 15th 2016 4:53 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
The positive thing about this election cycle is that it won't be long before there's a new controversy from President-Elect Snowflake to talk about, so we won't dwell too long on our own disagreements :)

SultanOfSwing Dec 15th 2016 7:26 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12129992)
The big question is why are they stuck together.

Some questions are best left unanswered.

morpeth Dec 15th 2016 8:26 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Ebonhawke (Post 12129876)
The positive thing about this election cycle is that it won't be long before there's a new controversy from President-Elect Snowflake to talk about, so we won't dwell too long on our own disagreements :)

Trump will provide enough topics of conversation for a lifetime

SultanOfSwing Dec 15th 2016 8:28 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12130050)
Trump will provide enough topics of conversation for a lifetime

It's going to take more than a lifetime to uncringe ourselves from the embarrassment that he was actually elected.

morpeth Dec 15th 2016 8:45 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12130055)
It's going to take more than a lifetime to uncringe ourselves from the embarrassment that he was actually elected.

I remember the left going on and on about Reagan in a somewhat similar manner- about his naps or views they considered abnormal ( like his comments about trees and cows causing much of pollution). But Regan did have some core beliefs , not so sure about Trump. Trumps use of English language and selective memory alone will prove lots of news in years to come.

Ebonhawke Dec 15th 2016 8:46 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 12130055)
It's going to take more than a lifetime to uncringe ourselves from the embarrassment that he was actually elected.

If things go as poorly as some of the more pessimistic people are fearing, you could win an election simply by pointing out that your opponent supported/voted for Trump, without offering any policy positions whatsoever.

Giantaxe Dec 15th 2016 8:51 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12130073)
I remember the left going on and on about Reagan in a somewhat similar manner- about his naps or views they considered abnormal ( like his comments about trees and cows causing much of pollution). But Regan did have some core beliefs , not so sure about Trump. Trumps use of English language and selective memory alone will prove lots of news in years to come.

A big difference from Reagan is that Reagan had actually been governor of a large state for eight years.

SultanOfSwing Dec 15th 2016 8:51 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by morpeth (Post 12130073)
I remember the left going on and on about Reagan in a somewhat similar manner- about his naps or views they considered abnormal ( like his comments about trees and cows causing much of pollution). But Regan did have some core beliefs , not so sure about Trump. Trumps use of English language and selective memory alone will prove lots of news in years to come.

Reagan was also Governor of California for 8 years, so he had credentials, even if I don't really align with him much. It isn't the fact that Trump is a Republican that I have a problem with, it's that he is Trump.


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