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Anian Oct 20th 2016 1:51 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
I only saw bits and pieces of the debate. Did Trump really accuse Hillary of supporting abortion up until the day before the due date? And then Hillary didn't deny it, or at least point out that it would only be done in very exceptional circumstances rather than as a convenience.

scrubbedexpat099 Oct 20th 2016 2:01 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12081465)
I only saw bits and pieces of the debate. Did Trump really accuse Hillary of supporting abortion up until the day before the due date? And then Hillary didn't deny it, or at least point out that it would only be done in very exceptional circumstances rather than as a convenience.

Late Term Abortion

Basically yes

I am conflicted on the issues, but it did seem odd when she was also going on about gun control and the need to save children lives.

Seemed contra logical but then wondered if logic has any place in these discussions.

zargof Oct 20th 2016 2:08 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12081465)
I only saw bits and pieces of the debate. Did Trump really accuse Hillary of supporting abortion up until the day before the due date? And then Hillary didn't deny it, or at least point out that it would only be done in very exceptional circumstances rather than as a convenience.

It wasn't a good answer by Clinton, but Trump was twisting her position on late term abortion. I believe the medical term for "ripping the baby out in the 9th month" is called a C-section.

Leslie Oct 20th 2016 2:40 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12081465)
I only saw bits and pieces of the debate. Did Trump really accuse Hillary of supporting abortion up until the day before the due date? And then Hillary didn't deny it, or at least point out that it would only be done in very exceptional circumstances rather than as a convenience.

She's said before that she supports late term abortion ONLY if the life of the mother is in danger. The most fanatical pro-lifers think this should not be legal.

At present, it is illegal for an abortion clinic to do late term abortions. A woman can't walk into Planned Parenthood in her 9th month and ask for a do-over. This would be a situation where the woman is already in the hospital and a life and death decision has to be made.

Anybody who understands the issue knows this. Anybody who believes what Trump said doesn't want to understand. They want abortion to be illegal in any and all situations.

He misrepresented the law as well as Clinton's position. That's what anti-choice fanatics do, that's what they've always done.

This isn't rocket science.

dc koop Oct 20th 2016 3:16 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
God forbid that any female child of Trump's were ever raped and became pregnant but if it were would he still feel the same way about abortion?

dc koop Oct 20th 2016 3:19 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
So His Royal Twatness may not concede defeat ! Who does this jackass think he is Benito Mussolini ?

Some of his facial expressions certainly remind me of Il Duce. It all comes down to the fact that he's a Whiny Little Bitch

Leslie Oct 20th 2016 3:21 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12081525)
God forbid that any female child of Trump's were ever raped and became pregnant but if it were would he still feel the same way about abortion?

He was pro life until last year. He lies about everything.

zargof Oct 20th 2016 3:22 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12081530)
So His Royal Twatness may not concede defeat ! Who does this jackass think he is Benito Mussolini ?

Some of his facial expressions certainly remind me of Il Duce. It all comes down to the fact that he's a Whiny Little Bitch

He's a combination of Mussolini and Silvio Berlusconi.

Giantaxe Oct 20th 2016 3:52 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Anian (Post 12081465)
I only saw bits and pieces of the debate. Did Trump really accuse Hillary of supporting abortion up until the day before the due date? And then Hillary didn't deny it, or at least point out that it would only be done in very exceptional circumstances rather than as a convenience.

“I have met with women who, toward the end of their pregnancy, get the worst news one could get, that their health is in jeopardy if they continue to carry to term or that something terrible has happened or just been discovered about the pregnancy. I do not think the United States government should be stepping in and making those most personal of decisions.”

Seems pretty clear to me.

dc koop Oct 20th 2016 4:55 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 12081569)
“I have met with women who, toward the end of their pregnancy, get the worst news one could get, that their health is in jeopardy if they continue to carry to term or that something terrible has happened or just been discovered about the pregnancy. I do not think the United States government should be stepping in and making those most personal of decisions.”

Seems pretty clear to me.

Expectant mother's health or life at stake.

Pregnancy caused by an act of incest

Pregnancy caused by rape

Unborn child found to be deformed

All of the above perfectly good reasons for abortions.

I'm sickened by the religious right and their antics.

Could the mother or parents of a deformed or mentally retarded child expect the State to assist financially and otherwise in the care and needs of such a child ? Not in this country they couldn't

dc koop Oct 20th 2016 5:02 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12081532)
He's a combination of Mussolini and Silvio Berlusconi.

Now he's just declared he'll "totally accept the election result IF he wins". Is this man completely right in the head or is there an under developed part of his brain that still makes him act like a petulant five year old child ?

sir_eccles Oct 20th 2016 5:07 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12081651)
Now he's just declared he'll "totally accept the election result IF he wins". Is this man completely right in the head or is there an undeveloped part of his brain that still makes him act like a petulant five year old child ?

He had a great tweet this morning (not going to link to it) basically whining that Hillary "got the questions" before the debate. No you idiot, that's called debate prep! You are told what the topics will be, it's been public knowledge for weeks. Then you sit down and brainstorm potential questions and answers. Something he clearly did not engage in for any of the debates.

dc koop Oct 20th 2016 5:07 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Liked the part where Hillary said Trump Tower in Vegas was built with Chinese steel. Heard that the construction workers were mostly Polish working for about 4 dollars an hour

dc koop Oct 20th 2016 5:09 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 12081655)
He had a great tweet this morning (not going to link to it) basically whining that Hillary "got the questions" before the debate. No you idiot, that's called debate prep! You are told what the topics will be, it's been public knowledge for weeks. Then you sit down and brainstorm potential questions and answers. Something he clearly did not engage in for any of the debates.

Donald probably thinks that "debate prep" is a Latin expression

Giantaxe Oct 20th 2016 5:14 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by dc koop (Post 12081656)
Liked the part where Hillary said Trump Tower in Vegas was built with Chinese steel. Heard that the construction workers were mostly Polish working for about 4 dollars an hour

Trump Tower in Vegas was apparently built with Chinese steel. The (undocumented) Polish workers who sued for unpaid wages were building Trump Tower in NYC. That suit was settled out of court.


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