British Expats - 2016 Election

Poor narcissist:

"Donald Trump has criticised the moderator in the first US presidential debate, Lester Holt, for being tougher on him than on Hillary Clinton."

This after he spoke longer, continually ignored his time limits and continually interrupted his opponent:

Presidential debate: Trump criticises moderator Lester Holt - BBC News

Justifies the nickname they have for Trump in Scotland "A whiny little bitch"

dc koop

Sep 27th 2016 7:37 am

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Trump started off well but reverted to being typical Trump as he ran out of self control later on

Leslie

Sep 27th 2016 7:45 am

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Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 12063019)

Woohoo, I voted three times on that one.

Okay, so that people will understand ... and "online poll" is not what is being referenced when referring to "the polls".

An online poll is about as useful as a BE poll.

sir_eccles

Sep 27th 2016 7:51 am

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Gordon will like this one. Someone traced the IP for the recently trending trumpwon hashtag. You'll never guess where it started.

livinginnyc

Sep 27th 2016 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 12063034)

Gordon will like this one. Someone traced the IP for the recently trending trumpwon hashtag. You'll never guess where it started.

Saw this earlier & look forward to seeing the guys explanation on how exactly he obtained the IP address(es) of the initial posters.

Found this also. Think it's appropriate -
https://media.giphy.com/media/11ziErSEWbAlXi/giphy.gif

sir_eccles

Sep 27th 2016 9:31 am

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Originally Posted by livinginnyc (Post 12063062)

It's probably straight forward if you have access to the API or have a dev account. Lots of business users like to be able to track their brand.

sir_eccles

Sep 27th 2016 10:07 am

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Apparently someone dug up the 4chan and reddit threads listing the post debate polls and how to manipulate them.

4chan and Reddit Manipulated Online Polls to Declare Trump the Debate Winner | The Daily Dot

zargof

Sep 27th 2016 10:10 am

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Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 12063099)

The internet has been rigging online polls forever, why does anyone still think they mean anything?

sir_eccles

Sep 27th 2016 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by zargof (Post 12063103)

The internet has been rigging online polls forever, why does anyone still think they mean anything?

Well nobody serious thinks they are accurate. However, the ability of polls (accurate or otherwise) to drive the media narrative is well documented. Once the media narrative sounds like "Is so and so on the back foot?" then suddenly they are on the back foot. People are easily influenced by these things.

scrubbedexpat099

Sep 27th 2016 10:46 am

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When was the last time a non online poll was right?

BREXIT anybody.

sir_eccles

Sep 27th 2016 11:25 am

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Another thing to consider regarding all these online polls showing Trump "winning". Trump always enthuses over polls that show him winning. If he believes his own hype then maybe he'll prepare just as well for the next debate.

livinginnyc

Sep 27th 2016 11:33 am

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Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 12063081)

It's probably straight forward if you have access to the API or have a dev account. Lots of business users like to be able to track their brand.

From re-reading his tweet/replies I'd take his findings with a pinch of salt till he releases more of his findings.

I've used Twitters API in the past for my own website (i'm just a hobbyist, but I do know PHP/JSON pretty inside out) and whatever data he's used I'm guessing came from Twitters geolocation (that gives you the users closest major city - if they allow it to be public) as a users originating IP address is well off-limits for obvious reasons. it's pretty inaccurate and easily faked... so open to abuse from people like 4Chan (like others have mentioned).

Leslie

Sep 27th 2016 11:36 am

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What's ol' Paul Manafort up to these day? He's disappeared like a fart in the wind.

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