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Old Aug 6th 2015 | 3:54 am
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Friend of mine describing the debates...

"A debate between ten people is not a debate, it's a shitty conference call"
 
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I hear that quite often, how uber intelligent Megyn Kelly is.
She's only "intelligent" in comparison to the Hannity's of this world.
 
Old Aug 6th 2015 | 3:57 am
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I hear that quite often, how uber intelligent Megyn Kelly is.
I mostly remember her for her role in Karl Rove's meltdown as reality penetrated the right wing bubble and the 2012 election results matched the predictions.
 
Old Aug 6th 2015 | 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by zargof
I mostly remember her for her role in Karl Rove's meltdown as reality penetrated the right wing bubble and the 2012 election results matched the predictions.
The fact is that she manages to be physically attractive but yet not as completely ridiculous as (because America!) some of the beauty school drop-outs that they have on Fox and Friends. She can string together a sentence and has moments of clarity (Karl Rove's meltdown being a perfect example) which puts her in the same category as most of the announcers on CNN/HLN and slightly better than local news bimbos. A very low bar indeed.
 
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As long as the corporate/political oligarchy, supported by Supreme Court decisions rules, elections are nothing more than a U.S. Reality show even if it might be entertaining to some.

10 Supreme Court Rulings—Before Hobby Lobby—That Turned Corporations Into People | Mother Jones
 
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Originally Posted by CelticRover
As long as the corporate/political oligarchy, supported by Supreme Court decisions rules, elections are nothing more than a U.S. Reality show even if it might be entertaining to some.

10 Supreme Court Rulings—Before Hobby Lobby—That Turned Corporations Into People | Mother Jones
Corporations are people my friend.
 
Old Aug 6th 2015 | 4:22 am
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Originally Posted by CelticRover
As long as the corporate/political oligarchy, supported by Supreme Court decisions rules, elections are nothing more than a U.S. Reality show even if it might be entertaining to some.

10 Supreme Court Rulings—Before Hobby Lobby—That Turned Corporations Into People | Mother Jones
The oligarchy is here to stay unless you vote Bernie.
 
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What exactly would/could Mr Sanders do about the existing legal precedents which were so skillfully crafted over the years? In fact if elected, the Obama tenure might look like a Republican love fest in comparison to what they will attempt on this 'commie/socialist, anti American, subversive operative'.
 
Old Aug 6th 2015 | 5:00 am
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Originally Posted by CelticRover
What exactly would/could Mr Sanders do about the existing legal precedents which were so skillfully crafted over the years? In fact if elected, the Obama tenure might look like a Republican love fest in comparison to what they will attempt on this 'commie/socialist, anti American, subversive operative'.
Frankly I think all the hyperbole thrown at Obama by the Republicans means that whatever they say about Sanders is going to be a case of "boy who cried wolf" and the only people that will believe it are the ones that would never vote Democrat anyway.

If the American people were to elect Sanders with such a radical platform, then it would send a statement that something in politics has to change, and if there was the status quo, then the same grassroots movement that elected Sanders would be marching on Washington, as well as turfing out the incumbents in Congress.

Will it happen? I doubt it, but it's nice to dream.
 
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On the other hand, Mr Christie offers the following as part of his campaign platform and is taken up on it:

Teacher to Chris Christie: Here’s my face. Go ahead and punch it. - The Washington Post
 
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Originally Posted by zargof
Frankly I think all the hyperbole thrown at Obama by the Republicans means that whatever they say about Sanders is going to be a case of "boy who cried wolf" and the only people that will believe it are the ones that would never vote Democrat anyway.
In Amuricah, the right wing defines "hyperbole" as being insightful and witty. So suggesting that Bernie Sanders is a Nazi is supposed to be clever, not stupid.
 
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If people believed that Obama was a racist Muslim born in Kenya, then they are going to believe that Sanders is a communist anti-Christian wannabe-dictator. Confirmation bias is far too strong among the ill-informed, and US news is more about spectacle than factual information.
 
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
In Amuricah, the right wing defines "hyperbole" as being insightful and witty. So suggesting that Bernie Sanders is a Nazi is supposed to be clever, not stupid.
The thing is I'm never quite sure if the right wing actually believe the nonsense the spout. Do they genuinely confuse social democrats with national socialism, because you know socialism...
 
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Originally Posted by Anian
If people believed that Obama was a racist Muslim born in Kenya, then they are going to believe that Sanders is a communist anti-Christian wannabe-dictator. Confirmation bias is far too strong among the ill-informed, and US news is more about spectacle than factual information.
I don't doubt that, but as I said those that do believe it aren't voting Democrat anyway.
 
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The thing is I'm never quite sure if the right wing actually believe the nonsense the spout. Do they genuinely confuse social democrats with national socialism, because you know socialism...
There is a concerted effort on the right to pigeonhole Nazism as a leftist philosophy, even though no political scientist worth his or her salt would make that argument. Apparently, the word "socialism" is enough.

These same people invariably can't figure out that George Orwell was a socialist. Their Google must be broken.
 


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