I don't think the hardliners in Iran sound anymore batshit crazy than Mike ****abee talking about shoving the Jews into the ovens. FFS.

Between ****abee's bloviating, Ted Cruz calling Mitch McConnell a liar from the floor of the senate, and Donald Trump as the standard bearer, this has quickly become a race to the bottom.

Speaking of which I see all the Republicans have been lining up to give Canada's finest a kicking because calling someone a liar is not cricket. I'm just curious where all these Republicans were when Joe Wilson called Obama a liar during the State of the Union.

Exactly. Lying ****ers.

Isn't the revelation that a politician is a liar about as high up on the surprise chart as night time being dark?

Would you care to restate any of this based on the obvious inaccuracies in your earlier post? You've been provided the links. Sounds like you are perhaps taking the Faux Noise line on this one ...

Well exactly. My only question is, "where is the bottom?". A year is quite a long time for them to keep digging.

So the Donald got away with calling Mexicans 'rapists', and he got away with insulting McCain and war veterans. I'm wondering if (hoping) his Achilles heel may just be religion ... surely he can't b/s his way with all the evangelicals in the party.

BTW - Leslie, as our resident historian, was Rachel Maddows correct about the 'Ross Perot' issue?
http://britishexpats.com/forum/trail.../#post11708240

Hey folks. I actually don't really much care about this deal. Among all the 'outstanding' policies of Obama, this Iran deal could care less to me... I was just pointing out my opinion. Those who really are scared and don't like this deal are the Jews and all the Sunnis in the region: I live far away from there and, I repeat, I couldn't care less.

I didn't know that I drew a lot of criticism from the pro-shiites and pro-iranians in this forum ;-) ;-)

Some of us are Jewish too.

Most of the complainers simply hate that a deal was made at all since it weakens them politically, nothing to do with the content of the deal.

They are showing dumb adverts telling me that the deal is bad and should be better, without actually giving any solution. It's the political equivalent of calling someone a poopy head.

I had no idea Trump was Mexican. We really need to see that birth certificate.

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I didn't see the show where she made those claims so I'm not really sure what she was saying or exactly why she was saying it. What I do know is that, anecdotally, that's not how I remember things at all. The only people I knew who actually supported Perot were disaffected conservative white people who hated Bill Clinton with a passion. They just also happened to not be overly impressed with George H.W. Bush either.

It was a very volatile time in general. AIDS activism was at its height (think Dallas Buyer's Club) and it was very divisive. Freddie Mercury had just died and Magic Johnson had just been diagnosed. Racial tensions were in the danger zone, there was Rodney King and the LA riots. People were definitely picking sides. IMO what Perot did, that may be different than what is traditionally reported about that election, is he may have helped activate some otherwise apathetic Democrats. For me personally, I found the prospect of him being elected quite frightening --- he was much more scary than GHW Bush.

Despite Perot's populist platform, he was (is) a narrow minded rich white guy from Dallas and he came across as such. He alienated black people as well as gay people with he attitudes and policy proposals. I have a hard time believing that very many people looked at it as a toss-up between him and Bill Clinton.

Then there was the fact that Perot completely Palined his VP pick. Stockdale managed the incredible feat of making Dan Quayle look smart.

As for the original point: According to the Wiki page, it looks Maddow's point is valid as Perot wasn't the reason Bush lost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_P...campaign,_1992

It's okay, you don't have to comment, you've got Mike Huckabee and Ricky to speak for you.

That was pure political poetry.