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Have to agree with the "ill-informed and uneducated electorate" charge, but that's what you get with universal suffrage. Democracy does assume an informed electorate in order to work. Just watch University students interviewed on TV who display abysmal ignorance of the world they want to "change." The Bolshies in 1917-18 and the Nazis in 1933 also wanted to change the world - and they did.
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The republicans tend to also "eat their own". Grover Norquist has been attacked by many on the right as being a "Muslim Brotherhood" supporter since apparently they don't like that he is married to a Muslim born in Kuwait to Palestinian Arab parents.
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If you read Bernie's website, his declared policies would have a great deal of resonance among the 20% of the voters who are not hard Democrats or hard Republicans and who decide the elections; so he could stand a chance in the general. His stated policies might trump (no pun intended) the "declared Socialist" label.
He calls himself a 'democratic socialist' but he's pretty centre-left. Not too far removed from FDR and he wasn't exactly a slouch in office.
Have to agree with the "ill-informed and uneducated electorate" charge, but that's what you get with universal suffrage. Democracy does assume an informed electorate in order to work. Just watch University students interviewed who are abysmally ignorant of the world, but want to "change the world." Alas, the future is dim, my friends. The Bolshies in 1918 and the Nazis in 1933 also wanted to change the world - and they did.
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Jesus as a Socialist. That's rich, and pretty confusing for fundamentalists. Was he a Marxist, or did He lean more toward the Fabians?
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I don't get a lot of smoking gun emails. Most of them are frankly pretty dull (although necessary.)
I doubt that your situation is much different. The same thing probably applies to most of us, including her.
It's not as if she would have been emailing al-Qaeda telling them to attack American embassies. The Republicans seem desperate to find something, anything, even though there is no substantive idea of what that might be. They can't believe that they can't find a Democratic version of Watergate even four decades later.
I doubt that your situation is much different. The same thing probably applies to most of us, including her.
It's not as if she would have been emailing al-Qaeda telling them to attack American embassies. The Republicans seem desperate to find something, anything, even though there is no substantive idea of what that might be. They can't believe that they can't find a Democratic version of Watergate even four decades later.
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I'd love to see more of a mix in Congress than just R v D. As we have seen recently, such a polarized house has almost sidelined the president preventing meaningful progress. I'd like to see a strong Green type party and more centrist fiscal conservative party. It won't happen and the Us v Them is seemingly going to just perpetuate itself.
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I'd love to see more of a mix in Congress than just R v D. As we have seen recently, such a polarized house has almost sidelined the president preventing meaningful progress. I'd like to see a strong Green type party and more centrist fiscal conservative party. It won't happen and the Us v Them is seemingly going to just perpetuate itself.
But it won't happen, as you say. Jesus, if even the Libertarian Party can't make ground in a country that it seems to be tailor made for, what hope has a centre-left or radical centre party got?
At the end of the day, I'm guilty of falling for it myself. There were items that I might have agreed with Romney, or even McCain (though I wasn't a citizen in 2008) on in their campaigns, but because I knew they'd have to righten up more to appeal to their party base, I wouldn't have, and didn't vote for them when the time came.
Actually, I did vote for one Republican on a local ballot because they were pro-choice and more aligned with my beliefs than the Democratic opponent was, but Illinois Democrats are a special breed as it is
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Exactly. I used spam as an exaggeration, but they'd all have been really mundane inter-office crap that carry no national importance whatsoever. That and probably one or two from Bill asking when dinner will be ready, or if she'd like a 'blow on his sax' later on.
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-Can you meet tomorrow to discuss the assassination of Grover Norquist?
-No, I'll be in Pakistan to meet with Osama bin Laden to discuss our next attack against the infidels. Allahu akbar!
-Allahu akbar! Have you made preparations for Chelsea's circumcision?
-No need. We did that years ago, inshallah.
-She looks adorable in a burka.
-Naturally. She'll make a fine fourth wife for somebody, won't she?
-Hey, catch you later. Go Redskins!
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We learned from Kenneth Starr that she hadn't 'blown his sax' for a long long time.
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No, I'm sure that it went something like this:
-Can you meet tomorrow to discuss the assassination of Grover Norquist?
-No, I'll be in Pakistan to meet with Osama bin Laden to discuss our next attack against the infidels. Allahu akbar!
-Allahu akbar! Have you made preparations for Chelsea's circumcision?
-No need. We did that years ago, inshallah.
-She looks adorable in a burka.
-Naturally. She'll make a fine fourth wife for somebody, won't she?
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-Can you meet tomorrow to discuss the assassination of Grover Norquist?
-No, I'll be in Pakistan to meet with Osama bin Laden to discuss our next attack against the infidels. Allahu akbar!
-Allahu akbar! Have you made preparations for Chelsea's circumcision?
-No need. We did that years ago, inshallah.
-She looks adorable in a burka.
-Naturally. She'll make a fine fourth wife for somebody, won't she?
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My fear is that Kevin D. Williamson at the National Review or someone else of his caliber will take it seriously: "British Operative Inadvertently Exposes Hillary's Jihad and Football Hypocrisy"
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No, I'm sure that it went something like this:
-Can you meet tomorrow to discuss the assassination of Grover Norquist?
-No, I'll be in Pakistan to meet with Osama bin Laden to discuss our next attack against the infidels. Allahu akbar!
-Allahu akbar! Have you made preparations for Chelsea's circumcision?
-No need. We did that years ago, inshallah.
-She looks adorable in a burka.
-Naturally. She'll make a fine fourth wife for somebody, won't she?
-Hey, catch you later. Go Redskins!
-Can you meet tomorrow to discuss the assassination of Grover Norquist?
-No, I'll be in Pakistan to meet with Osama bin Laden to discuss our next attack against the infidels. Allahu akbar!
-Allahu akbar! Have you made preparations for Chelsea's circumcision?
-No need. We did that years ago, inshallah.
-She looks adorable in a burka.
-Naturally. She'll make a fine fourth wife for somebody, won't she?
-Hey, catch you later. Go Redskins!
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