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Old Mar 11th 2016, 3:15 am
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
Can you tell us what percentage of the 11+ million illegals work in agriculture, what percentage work in jobs that Americans will do, such as construction, warehousing, food processing plants, trucking, clothing manufacturing, illegal drug trafficking, and what percentage are receiving government benefits intended for USCs?
An estimated 3 million work in agriculture. As for the rest of your post...yes...there are a number of jobs you mentioned that could be filled by Americans but put the blame where it belongs...on the businesses that employ them and encourage the situation. I am not about to dump on desperate people who have often been lured to the country by agents of companies who want such workers. Until the government gets serious about clamping down on those companies with stiff fines and jail time for multiple offenses..the problem will remain.

As for benefits...I think you will find that without proof ef legal status they are nye impossible to come by.
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
In the video, he claims "Some people academically believe socialism, communism, Marxism are the same thing."

It's not surprising that the Fox audience is less informed than those who don't watch the news at all. That sort of misstatement is the norm for right-wing media outlets, which are pathologically unable to separate facts from opinion. (And I am neither a communist nor a socialist, so it's not as if I'm defending either of those positions.)
When she says: 'But let's not get bogged down by the facts...' .
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Originally Posted by dakota44
An estimated 3 million work in agriculture. As for the rest of your post...yes...there are a number of jobs you mentioned that could be filled by Americans but put the blame where it belongs...on the businesses that employ them and encourage the situation. I am not about to dump on desperate people who have often been lured to the country by agents of companies who want such workers. Until the government gets serious about clamping down on those companies with stiff fines and jail time for multiple offenses..the problem will remain.
That is the irony... we have Republican candidates wanting to deport 11 million people, but there is nary a mention of taking action against employers whose hiring of undocumented workers feeds the issue. If they pushed for severe (criminal) penalties against such employers, I would take their position more seriously.
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When she says: 'But let's not get bogged down by the facts...' .
Who needs facts when you have baseless rhetoric?
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Old Mar 11th 2016, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
That is the irony... we have Republican candidates wanting to deport 11 million people, but there is nary a mention of taking action against employers whose hiring of undocumented workers feeds the issue. If they pushed for severe (criminal) penalties against such employers, I would take their position more seriously.
They can't as apparently it's over regulation of businesses that are destroying our economy.
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Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP
In the video, he claims "Some people academically believe socialism, communism, Marxism are the same thing."

It's not surprising that the Fox audience is less informed than those who don't watch the news at all. That sort of misstatement is the norm for right-wing media outlets, which are pathologically unable to separate facts from opinion. (And I am neither a communist nor a socialist, so it's not as if I'm defending either of those positions.)
As someone who regularly watches Fox, I find this stereotype about it really quite tiresome and terribly smug. I also watch CNN and their bias for the other side is just as bad, every night Rachel Maddow conducts a party political broadcast on behalf of the Dems but no one makes disparaging comments about the intelligence of their viewership
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Originally Posted by themadpooper
As someone who regularly watches Fox, I find this stereotype about it really quite tiresome and terribly smug. I also watch CNN and their bias for the other side is just as bad, every night Rachel Maddow conducts a party political broadcast on behalf of the Dems but no one makes disparaging comments about the intelligence of their viewership
That's impressive that you see Rachel Maddow on CNN, considering she's has a show on MSNBC.
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Originally Posted by themadpooper
As someone who regularly watches Fox, I find this stereotype about it really quite tiresome and terribly smug. I also watch CNN and their bias for the other side is just as bad, every night Rachel Maddow conducts a party political broadcast on behalf of the Dems but no one makes disparaging comments about the intelligence of their viewership
We can all watch that Fox News video and lol at its intellectual dishonesty. Perhaps you'd like to share something from CNN that you feel is in a similar vein?
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[QUOTE=Jsmth321;11892837]We have higher wages in Canada and yes we do pay more for some things but nothing what you describe.

Last hotel I was at paid 13/14 per hour to start and our average rate was only 80 to 100 per night.

Fast food pays anywhere from 11 to 13 to start and prices are not much higher then in WA state.

Min wage in BC is 10.40hr but many places have to pay more due to market demands.

We manage not to have to rely on cheap cheap illegal labor and still function.





Sorry but Canada is a monumental rip off compared to America; the cost of stuff is astronomical

Gas, beer, food in general, the average mortgage. It's not even close
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Originally Posted by zargof
That's impressive that you see Rachel Maddow on CNN, considering she's has a show on MSNBC.
Cool story
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Old Mar 11th 2016, 3:39 am
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One channel has "news" in the name, MSNBC doesn't. I see MSNBC as more of a magazine channel - it contains some news but it isn't really a news channel. Fox News pretends to be a news channel, but it is mostly opinion, particularly at peak viewing time. I'm told that it is relatively sane around lunch time.
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One channel has "news" in the name, MSNBC doesn't. I see MSNBC as more of a magazine channel - it contains some news but it isn't really a news channel. Fox News pretends to be a news channel, but it is mostly opinion, particularly at peak viewing time. I'm told that it is relatively sane around lunch time.
It also did a great job with the primary debates it held, including the Democratic one. But, yeh, it really does seem to be mainly propaganda as opposed to news.
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Originally Posted by themadpooper
Sorry but Canada is a monumental rip off compared to America; the cost of stuff is astronomical

Gas, beer, food in general, the average mortgage. It's not even close
It's almost as if there is a cost to living in a place where people are pleasant, crime is low, and you don't go bankrupt if you get a bit too ill.
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The quotes people!

Please check your posts after posting. If the post you have quoted appears to be cocked up...please amend or delete it. Cocked up quotes spoil the thread making it hard to read the posts. Thank you.

http://britishexpats.com/forum/take-...rectly-873146/
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Originally Posted by themadpooper
As someone who regularly watches Fox, I find this stereotype about it really quite tiresome and terribly smug.
In the world of Fox, being accurate is "smug."
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