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What complicates this is that the GOP added a "Rule 40" that mandates that only those candidates who have won majorities in at least eight states are eligible. (I suppose that they could rescind this if they wished -- it isn't a legal requirement.) This makes the winner-take-all states particularly important, as many of the states that are not winner-take-all are not giving majorities to anyone.
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Wasn't the whole Federal system set up to stop these demagogues? At least that is kind of my interpretation of documents like Federalist Paper #10
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Hamilton not only didn't contemplate having a primary system, but he was hoping to avoid having political parties altogether. That obviously worked out well...
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I was reading about the Democratic Convention of 1968, where we had massive riots in the streets. The nominee didn't even participate in the primaries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_D...nal_Convention
Vice President Hubert Humphrey then entered into the race, but did not compete in any primaries, compiling his delegates in caucus states that were controlled by party leaders
When it came to choosing a candidate, on one side stood supporters of Senator McCarthy, who ran a decidedly anti-war campaign and who was seen as the peace candidate. On the other side was Vice President Humphrey, who was seen as the candidate who represented the Johnson point of view. In the end, the Democratic Party nominated Humphrey. Even though 80 percent of the primary voters had been for anti-war candidates, the delegates had defeated the peace plank by 1,567¾ to 1,041¼. The perceived cause of this loss was the result of Mayor of Chicago Richard Daley, and President Johnson pulling strings behind the scenes. Humphrey, even though he had not entered a single primary, had won the Democratic nomination, and went on to lose the election to the Republican Richard Nixon
Obviously, though, if you ask people to vote, and you then ignore that vote, you are asking for trouble regardless of what the 'rules' are. Presumably that is why Humphrey lost to Nixon ...?
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Also, the president isn't a prime minister; a president is supposed to also represent the states, not just the people. The idea was that a president should not show favoritism to one particular state, nor should those who are popular in high-population states end up winning by default. Support for a president is supposed to be broad, which includes geographic dispersion.
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Trump vs Bernie would be an utter entertainment! It would be interesting to see what type of lunacy triumphs the United States of A...jolly good times ahead, I better renew my passport
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Any chance someone could start a "Slap an Evangelical" day ?
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In fairness, people aren't talking about leaving just because a Republican may win. No one on this forum (as far as I know) suggested leaving due to a potential McCain win in 2008, or a potential Romney win in 2012; nor are they horrified now by the thought of a Kasich win or a JEB win; we are talking here specifically about a TRUMP win - a man who has openly advocated war crimes, torture, arresting and deporting 12 million people, among other crazy things.
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In fairness, people aren't talking about leaving just because a Republican may win. No one on this forum (as far as I know) suggested leaving due to a potential McCain win in 2008, or a potential Romney win in 2012; nor are they horrified now by the thought of a Kasich win or a JEB win; we are talking here specifically about a TRUMP win - a man who has openly advocated war crimes, torture, arresting and deporting 12 million people, among other crazy things.
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