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Giantaxe May 15th 2015 5:52 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11647028)
I'm still trying to understand why there are so many GOP candidates. By some counts there are 18 or more who have or will have indicated they will run.

Surely this will be bad for the GOP as they will be spending most of their energy attacking their fellow GOP candidates rather than Hillary.

Obvious answer is money I guess.

Maybe, but otoh the Democrats may have the reverse problem if there are on credible challengers to Clinton.

RoadWarriorFromLP May 15th 2015 6:07 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11647028)
I'm still trying to understand why there are so many GOP candidates.

The short answer is that there is no clear front runner and the GOP is the party out of power, so it can't hurt to try -- at least in some respects, the statistical odds of a Republican win aren't bad. (All things being equal, odds go against the party that has held a two-term presidency. Obama would have to be overwhelmingly popular in order to turn this disadvantage around, and he clearly isn't.)

The Dems have the opposite problem. There is a clear front runner, Democrats are on the losing side of that two-term electoral history, and anyone on the Dem side who is serious about winning would want to avoid a 2016 defeat -- once you run for president and lose, you don't get another chance. Any serious contender would be better off waiting.

scrubbedexpat099 May 15th 2015 6:19 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by RoadWarriorFromLP (Post 11647066)
The short answer is that there is no clear front runner and the GOP is the party out of power, so it can't hurt to try -- at least in some respects, the statistical odds of a Republican win aren't bad. (All things being equal, odds go against the party that has held a two-term presidency. Obama would have to be overwhelmingly popular in order to turn this disadvantage around, and he clearly isn't.)

The Dems have the opposite problem. There is a clear front runner, Democrats are on the losing side of that two-term electoral history, and anyone on the Dem side who is serious about winning would want to avoid a 2016 defeat -- once you run for president and lose, you don't get another chance. Any serious contender would be better off waiting.

The ony thing I would disagree with is that they are clearly no hopers that will chance their arm for other reasons.

Bernie for example.

Hillary well I think she is too old now, but clearly this is her only chance, waiting for next time around will not hack it.

sir_eccles May 15th 2015 7:36 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by username.exe (Post 11646330)
At this stage I'm just grateful the Palin looks like she's not running. :thumbup:

Woop woop, Mr Carson, your 15 minutes are up.

Palin says she’s ‘seriously interested’ in 2016 campaign - The Washington Post

username.exe May 15th 2015 11:52 am

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11647122)

:eek:

username.exe May 15th 2015 11:54 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
One of the other issues with so many candidates commencing their campaigns years before the election - their constituents are getting the shaft.

Where else do you get elected and paid to do one job, only to announce that you're going to be spending our time campaigning for another?!

You're Paying Ted Cruz's Salary So He Can Run For President: The Q: GQ

scrubbedexpat099 May 15th 2015 11:57 am

Re: 2016 Election
 
Clinton Palin dream ticket?

Nutek May 15th 2015 12:04 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
A second chance to break this out. :)

PalinAsPresident.com

username.exe May 15th 2015 12:23 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Nutek (Post 11647292)
A second chance to break this out. :)

PalinAsPresident.com

Ooooohh, here are the nuclear codes. :lol:

:ohmy:

Steve_ May 15th 2015 12:49 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Birthplace of President Ted Cruz? Calgary homeowner hopes it never happens | Calgary Herald :lol:

Steve_ May 15th 2015 12:52 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11646077)
Nope, I've changed my mind, Ben Carson it is:

Didn't quite say that apparently: Did Ben Carson Really Say Illegal Immigrants caught voting should be stripped of their Citizenship?

But pretty much as stupid.

Jerseygirl May 15th 2015 2:25 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11647122)

OMG can you imagine if the election was down to Hillary Clinton vs Sarah Palin? :eek:

Mrs Danvers May 15th 2015 2:30 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by sir_eccles (Post 11647122)

She's seriously interested in selling more bullshit books is all.

Giantaxe May 15th 2015 2:50 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 11647318)

One commentary I read on this suggests it may be "potentially racist" as well in that he believes this purported voter fraud is being aided by (legal) Hispanic immigrants, but has failed to produce any evidence to back this up. Ergo, those immigrants can be stripped of their US citizenship and sent "home".

mgd May 15th 2015 3:36 pm

Re: 2016 Election
 
Im worried Hillary will win just because she's a woman instead of for her politics


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