oliverandlisa

Hi all,

about to start applying for jobs in Vic and want to know where i should start my web search. we are secondary and primary teachers.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Lisa.xx

scrubbedexpat020

https://schooljobs.education.vic.gov...RAM.HRS_CE.GBL

Not a teacher, some on BritVics http://s7.invisionfree.com/BritVics/...hp?showforum=1

Ian

Swerv-o

Have you applied for registration with the Victorian Institute of Teachers (VIT) It's a pre-requisite for teaching in Victoria.

S

oliverandlisa

yes, thats all been done as i said we are now at the stage of actually applying for jobs. thanks for the advice though

Lisa.xx

Swerv-o

OK, that's cool - I didn't mean to try telling you to suck eggs!

I didn't have much luck applying for teaching jobs from the UK - In teaching they really want to interview personally, not over the phone. I pretty much gave up until I arrived, then started.

Have a look at the calendar for the school year - I found that it was best to arrive well before a term started, else there was precious little to be found.

Much of the recruitment for next years posts is done around this time of year - September, October & November - So don't leave it too late!

S

oliverandlisa

thanks, so can you tell me the difference between a classroom teascher and an expert teacher.

Ive been class teaching here for over 10 years which type of jobs should i be looking for?

lisa.x

Swerv-o

No idea I'm afraid. Didn't go into teaching in the end - I got a much better job in Research and Development...

I do know that many of the private schools in NSW are now specifying xx number of years LOCAL teaching experience or LOCAL HSC experience. Contrary to popular belief, there isn't really a massive shortage of teachers in Aus (unless you teach Physics or Maths at secondary), so the important thing is to get some local experience anywhere that you can. If it were me, I would be applying for anything that came along - contract work, supply, anything that will give you a bit of Aussie teaching experience. If you can demonstrate some of that, it will give a potential employer more confidence in you when you come to apply for a more permanent position.

Are you applying to teach with the state? It may be different in Vic, but in NSW you apply to the state and they send you off where there is a need for your skills... Permanent teaching jobs in Aus are much much harder to come by than in the uk.

S

RUGBYGAL

Sorry to butt in Swerv...just wondered were you intending to teach when you got out there but decided there were better paid jobs in other areas? Curious as hubby is looking to relocate to SE Queensland, I am a primary school teacher 2 years experience. I have had a look on the site for QLD education, system for applying is so different, pay is not all that good. I love teaching but am wondering whether I would be better of looking for other areas of work. I have a law degree and have 2 years project management experience. I went into teaching as a 'mature' student (well if you can call 26 mature ) Thanks in advance

RUGBYGAL

Sorry Swerv-o NOT Swer

RUGBYGAL

Oh my god I cannot type today ...apologies

Swerv-o

Don't worry - It's a stupid name anyway

Originally, when I started this migrating lark, I hadnt intended to teach - I got a skills assessment through my engineering qualifications as a professional engineer.

I did teacher training as a back up really, as I though that it would make me a bit more employable when I arrived, and give me more options for jobs etc. I quite enjoyed it - I quite like the environment, as I found it quite mentally stimulating, and I wouldn't have minded carrying on with it.

Unfortunately, the NSW DET had other plans, and because of problems with my teaching certificate (FE college, not Univeristy), they wouldn't give me authority to teach in public schools. I appealed the decision, but they were resolute. I teach Physics, an alleged shortage subject, and have a PhD in it, so you would have thought that they would have snapped my hand off, but oh no. A good friend here works for the DET, and he helped me through the process, but just couldn't believe how "bloody minded" they were being (to quote him). He found the red tape quite exasperating, and he works for them! They wanted me to go off and do extra training, and some extra modules at a local uni before they would consider me again.

I did get limited authorty to teach from the NSWIT, but it meant that I could only teach in private schools, where the terms and conditions are different to state schools, though the pay is usually a little better. When I arrived in August, there were precious few private school teaching jobs about, so I speculativly applied for some engineering and science jobs and was amazed at the response - I seemed to be really in demand and had 4 or 5 interviews in the first couple of weeks, and the money on the table was usually twice what I could have earned as a teacher.

In the end, I landed this fantastic job that is very closely aligned with what I did my PhD in, so my career has come full cirlce, and I'm earning well over twice what I would have earned as a teacher, even in a private school. So I'm happy now and the future looks rosy. The whole DET experience has left something of a bitter taste though - the inflexibility of the system to deal with something that was fundamentally very simple was staggering. I'm kind of pleased that I have been able to say "Stuff you then", turn my back on them, take my skills and abilities elsewhere and earn more money.

So that's my story. Hope it helps...

S

RUGBYGAL

Thanks for telling it....it all turned out for the better eventually ...very well done. I think I will wait and see if hubby gets the job and then suss out the situation re: teaching in QLD, at least I have my management experience if it all goes 'pete tong'

Mochinbach

Let me know how you get on. Just about to apply to queensland to register to teach. Fingers crossed! It's like doing the NOOSR test all over again!

I teach English but have a specialism in the area of ICT across the curriculum. Looking at the website for QLD it looks like they're quite into this new technology too so maybe I can work as a consultant if I can't get a teaching job straight away.

saoghalbeag

Once you're registered in Queensland (with the Queensland College of Teachers) you then have to apply to the Education Department for work in state schools. There is a grading system based on experience (and sometimes an interview before a panel and some sort of essay). Once you have this ranking you are then 'allocated' a position by the department - there's not the flexibility finding a teaching position (ie: via TES) that there is in the UK. You have to accrue points in remote teaching service before you are eligible to apply for transfer to the SE regions.