Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

I'm sure if teaching in oz is anything like it is over here, there are a few hundred going for a job @ a time anyways! Mental...

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

depends on subject, level and area of course.

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Getting a Primary post is difficult in the vast majority of places, true of Aus & UK.

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Have you considered transferring to secondary music? 11-18 jobs can have lot less compitition and no extra training is needed, schools can be quite desperate for music teachers.
how about teaching at several schools as an independent teacher, i know someone who used to work for 5 schools, all on 0.2 contracts. she got travelling time too, (she worked in and around bunbury in W.A.)

i would say secondary teaching is always going to be easier to find a job in, I would reccomend the change to anyone looking for other options into aus.

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Surely that is belittling secondary music teachers?! A few of my mates are Music teachers and it's no mean feat, they did a lot of specialised training and obviously are musicians themselves! So no, it's not an option without going back to retrain, which at my stage, is not an option! Don't worry about my getting into Oz, I will get there, by hook or by crook, and might well have a wee something up my sleeve to ensure that! :p

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Yupper, indeedy it is! To get my current, permanent post it took me 38 applications and 23 interviews in the space of 3 months, and I got the 23rd job! Sometimes there were upwards of a couple of hundred applicants, shortlisted to around 20, and one too many times I came second reserve, how irritating is that eh!? lol :sneaky:

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

no its not belttling secondary music teachers at all, like i said iwas commenting on personal experience. due to the huge lack of music teachers many primary teachers are finding that they can teach music at a secondary level without being required to retrain. that is not to say they are not qualified to do the job, obviously my friend was a gifted musician and found it fairly straightforward to transfer her skills and experience to the seconadary level.
i have met lots of teachers who started as primary and ended up in secondary and vice versa, i have had stints in both myself. PGCE's nowadays teach very similar skills to both primary and secondary student teachers, most of the lectures at my training college mix all students together.
dont worry, my advice was for people looking in general not just one person, it may be good advice for one, bad for another

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

I guess however, Primary Teachers are Primary for a reason, and Secondary for their reasons....I however, am Primary, and will stay that way, as I'm vertically challenged and the 'big uns' would eat me alive!!!! lol :rofl:

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

very good point, most primary will stay in primary all their life, same with most secondary.

however, some people are looking at ways of getting into Aus, exploring every option is vital i think. for anyone who is thinking about this option, contact Select Education, they were the agency my friend used

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Can't comment through my own experience but I think music is different to other subjects. I know an Australian teacher who has taught in Primary and Secondary in UK and Aus. He works in Brisbane and is Brass specialist and bands seem to be much bigger there. This is true of primary where more kids learn instruments. He does private as well and he says the demand has never been greater, he's having to turn kids away.

OP, maybe it Derek's thought maybe worth a look. I've a another friend who went to NZ last year and three primary schools created a job for him - yr1 - yr8 and he's only ever taught secondary before.

Just wish I could play something, so if you move to Adelaide you can teach me when we get there!

Cooler

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

My understanding is that primary schools in aus are requesting primary trained PE teachers to basically be responsible for teaching PE to all students. This, I believe, would mean that they would not be responsible for teaching other subject areas. Can anyone please comment how prevalent this is and are they in short demand as I would be quite happy to change from sec to primary if it meant that no additional training was required. Thanks in advance.

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Just a quick question any ideas how it is looking for ICT/Business Studies jobs Brisbane/Gold Coast area. I am currently HOD but I would not be looking for responsibility in Oz. Ideally a nice little part time job would be fab but I guess anything would do. Have most of you done supply at first and to get a foot in the door?

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

I know a guy who is trained as a secondary PE teacher and is teaching a primary class on a relief basis!! He has no qualification to teach primary kids and he is teaching ALL subjects to the class, not just PE!

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

Where is that Kar-Kier?

Cooler

Re: Teaching Salaries?
 

It's in northam. His girlfriend/ partner came over on 457 with us, but he can't get a job in PE. He had my friends daughters class, that's how I know!