Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6354918)

Trying to work out where to go I noticed that VIctoria has struck a new pay deal for its teachers to make them higher paid.

Can anyone help me find out how much I should expect to get paid (roughly) and whether my 2 years of teaching experience would be taken into account?

Primary classroom or primary music (depending on who will employ me!!)

Originally Posted by Australia_bound? (Post 6355555)

Teachers salaries
http://www.eduweb.vic.gov.au/edulibr...lary_rates.pdf

Relief salaries
http://www.eduweb.vic.gov.au/hrweb/Docs/CRT_rates.doc

Done 2005but will give you an idea, yes experience can be transfered

Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6355658)

Thanks, I had looked at these.

Would I need to go in as a graduate scheme do you think? I would be in my third year of teaching and have a 4yr hons degree

I wonder when they'll publish the new scales, its difficult to know how much they'll go up by.

Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6356181)

That's great, thank you for this.

Have you seen this? http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-29277,00.html

Trying to work out its impact, might mean less jobs by the time I get down under!

Originally Posted by Australia_bound? (Post 6356270)

Already hard to find a permanent job anyway, don't need any more hurdles putting up :ohmy:

Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6356275)

Yeah I was beginning to think that all these jobs listed on the government website were ones that were temp contracts or ones that already had people allocated to them.

Are you in the same situation?

Originally Posted by quoll (Post 6371088)

My SIL is a teacher in Vic as well - and tells the same old story, but on the plus side, schools are more likely to offer contracts (and you could be lucky with permanency) to young teachers because they cost them less in the long run than the old chooks who have been doing it for 20 years! Also play up any special ed experience qualifications you may have had.

Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6372068)

I have a qualification in teaching deaf children music (yeah I know!) and am a music specialist as well as primary teacher here so it may make me more employable.
Funny you should say that about newer teachers quoll as its how I got my permanent contract here, rocked up to the interview and dropped in that I was the cheapest candidate! :p

Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6354918)

Trying to work out where to go I noticed that VIctoria has struck a new pay deal for its teachers to make them higher paid.

Can anyone help me find out how much I should expect to get paid (roughly) and whether my 2 years of teaching experience would be taken into account?

Primary classroom or primary music (depending on who will employ me!!)

Originally Posted by OzTennis (Post 6492101)

http://www.premier.vic.gov.au/newsro...-teachers.html

See bottom of article for current salaries by state, top of scale and graduate entry.

(former regular poster on site, returning for first time in yonks)

OzTennis :)

Originally Posted by funkydelia (Post 6492748)

Thanks for this info.

Do you know if I would be classed as a graduate teacher? How much experience do you need to go in at mainscale?

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7469849)

It would be interesting to hear more views on schools taking on the less experienced teachers over the more experieced teachers in order to save money. We have spoken to a few Aussies recently who say this is very unlikely to be true, especially in the private schools where they want, what they consider, the best teachers and they consider the oldies to be often the best. They suggest it's more of who you know and not necessarily what your CV suggets!:unsure::unsure:

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7469912)

It's sad the way in which professionals (!) operate jen1977ni! I'll be there on a PR and will be hoping this might help. Melbourne sounds very attractive but looks like WA is the best place 2 find work. When do you hope moving over?

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7469960)

Perhaps I have been a little ignorant in terms of 175's etc and what they all refer to. I'm applying for Permanent Residence and I'm currently waiting for my Skills Assessment to be completed. My parets will be sponsoring me which I believe is my next step. Does this tell you anything??:ohmy:

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7469994)

Jen,
I have sent you a PM

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7469849)

It would be interesting to hear more views on schools taking on the less experienced teachers over the more experieced teachers in order to save money. We have spoken to a few Aussies recently who say this is very unlikely to be true, especially in the private schools where they want, what they consider, the best teachers and they consider the oldies to be often the best. They suggest it's more of who you know and not necessarily what your CV suggets!:unsure::unsure:

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7471782)

If she says yes Jen any chance of you paying for me instead? lol

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7470691)

In your experience hereshopping which are the easiest places to find work in Melbourne and which are the best, ie good schools / area?

Originally Posted by Jen1977ni (Post 7470723)

Hereshoping would it be a waste of my time n money to go to Oz for two months in the summer on a jobhunt?

Originally Posted by hereshoping (Post 7472349)

The easiest places to find work is in the outer suburbs, particularly in the west and north of the city. If you're prepared to travel an hour or more around the city there are plenty of jobs. The best schools are in the inner city and eastern suburbs in my opinion.



If you're looking for jobs for the start of the 2010 academic year then I'm afraid i think it would be a waste. Jobs are advertised/filled really late over here compared to the UK. Prime time to be applying for jobs is October, November and even into December. We moved over in July with full intention of doing supply for half a year, just so we'd be here to apply for jobs when they came up and were on the ground to do interviews.

Originally Posted by hereshoping (Post 7472349)

The easiest places to find work is in the outer suburbs, particularly in the west and north of the city. If you're prepared to travel an hour or more around the city there are plenty of jobs. The best schools are in the inner city and eastern suburbs in my opinion.



If you're looking for jobs for the start of the 2010 academic year then I'm afraid i think it would be a waste. Jobs are advertised/filled really late over here compared to the UK. Prime time to be applying for jobs is October, November and even into December. We moved over in July with full intention of doing supply for half a year, just so we'd be here to apply for jobs when they came up and were on the ground to do interviews.

Originally Posted by coolerkingcooler (Post 7474039)

Friend in Brisbane said the same about there, I was surprised about December though.

Cooler

Originally Posted by Jen1977ni (Post 7476100)

No point in applying for jobs, even online, before I'm granted is there...even in Private schools?!

Originally Posted by daddyofthree (Post 7477331)

If Nov / Dec are the best months for gaining employment, then I think I'll stick to temporarily moving over at the beginning of the summer hols, take 3 months off unpaid (from current position) and do cas work in Aus from July - Dec. Hopefully I can find work, if not I'll come home and pos forget the dream. If I secure a a job, then sod my notice!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: ps why am I on xpats on a bank hol at 11pm. sad!:unsure:

Originally Posted by Jen1977ni (Post 7477345)

Ive a mortgage to pay so cant take 3 months unpaid leave lol

Originally Posted by Jen1977ni (Post 7476100)

No point in applying for jobs, even online, before I'm granted is there...even in Private schools?!

Originally Posted by hereshoping (Post 7477507)

Nope don't think any school would look at appointing someone without a visa- far too risky.



Sounds like you've got nice employers if they'll give you 3 months leave knowing that you might not come back. We just quit in July and crossed our fingers, casual work turned out to be easy to pick up.



Are you planning on keeping your UK house? If so then I agree it would be difficult to cover the mortgage and your living expenses over here just on casual work. Remembering of course that if you get a permanent position the academic year doesn't start until end Jan/ beginning Feb so it's close to 5 months without a salary which is a bit scary I agree. We sold our house so didn't have to worry about that, but then we don't have any kids to worry about and were certain we weren't going back to the UK.

Originally Posted by blackjack041 (Post 7477604)

Depending on your expectations of obtaining a visa etc.... Why not, what do you have to lose? Keep your options open... You maybe very surprised with the position of some schools etc. You could also use this to your benefit with immigration - why give them a ring and quiz them over it. I found the immigration dept very helpful! :thumbsup: