Swerv-o

I'm still not sure that a 457 visa is a very realistic possibility for a teacher, unless you have exceptional talents or are willing to go and work in a remote location.

You yourself have stated that Australian schools prefer Australian trained teachers, so why would a school take the gamble of an overseas trained teacher that will require sponsorship when they can hire a known quantity from a pool of local talent without having to negotiate visas?

I think that you will have to bite the bullet and come on either a permanent or a bush visa, otherwise you may spend (and waste) months applying for jobs requiring sponsorship that may just never materialise. It shows a potential employer much more about your commitment if you have organised a visa and are there, ready to go than still on the other side of the world with affairs there to tie up. I'm sure that there are plenty of things that you could do to keep the wolf from the door while you wait for that teaching job to show up. That's what I did, and now you wouldn't catch me at the front of a classroom again.

You just need to take the leap of faith!


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roamer25

I'm confused by your comments. You talk like teachers would have to chase this down like a business visa?
Many states are offering 457s for teachers on the condition that you spend 2 years outwith the capital city (457 regional).

Each state has its own list of subjects they need and are willing to offer this with. You look it up, you apply, you may or may not get it.

Swerv-o

Yes, that's what I mean by the 'Bush visa' ie. living in the Bush. But a 457 visa doesn't lead to a permanent visa, and is fraught with risk in terms of cancellation, job satisfaction etc.

A permanent visa offers a would be immigrant a much broader range of securities over a temporary visa.


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roamer25

Well, the confusion is there by your telling the poster not to go on a 457, then to pick either a bush or PR visa.

No, not in all states, but if you're short on points, being on it for 12 months gives you some extra points for PR. Also, some people don't want to sell everything you own on the risk of PR.

Some people do not see spending thousands for PR, with no job at the end, as offering 'a much broader range of securities' . Different people make different lifestyle choices for various reasons, and that should be considered.

I think the huge risk of your job being cancelled applies more to the commercial sector - state departments operate differently.

I think your sig says it all really!

Swerv-o

That may all be very well if the OP was planning on going to a state where the option of obtaining a 457 visa was realistic - but he has already said that he isn't, so his choices are limited now. They need to be pragmatic about what options are available to them, not idealistic about what they would like to do.

Victoria don't offer a 457 visa option, but they do offer state nomination for PR if your teaching specialism falls within certain subjects. They also offer sponsorship on the regional (461) visa if you are willing to live in an area of low population density/growth, both of which can be applied for if you can't make the points for a full PR visa. Remember that there are broader issues to consider - access to Medicare, access to family tax credits, access to reduced health insurance policies, access to benefits such as stamp duty exemptions and the First Home Owners Grant - none of which are available when on a 457 visa.

If the OP still wishes to follow the 457 path, then they will be limited to applying to private schools - or as you say, tracking down the jobs individually. State schools in Victoria don't do their own recruiting, so they will have to find a private school with a vacancy that is willing to sponsor them for a temporary visa. If you read many of the articles in the Australia forum you will see that it is not easy to get a job of any description until you arrive here. Many try and fail. Employers like you to be on hand for a face to face interview. Even the most talented of people report being told to wait until they arrive before they start seeking work.

I understand that people may be reluctant to sell everything in the pursuit of permanent residence, but ultimately, migration is a gamble with no hard and fast rewards. Many people fail, or go home again in a short space of time because they don't get it right. Of course, you can plan and do as much as you can to mitigate failure, but eventually it will come to taking the leap of faith and just doing it.


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