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Old Mar 16th 2008 | 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by Lenox
... we have the dubious pleasure of voting for either the PP or the PSOE in the European Elections in the certain knowledge that both parties in Europe will represent Spain, but not the people who live here.
Yes, but that is what the EU is about...
 
Old Mar 16th 2008 | 10:51 am
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The fact that we cannot vote in Spanish general and regional elections is down to the British government which does not grant reciprocal voting rights to Spaniards.

Norway allows resident foreigners to vote in its elections therefore Norwegians can vote in Spanish elections.
 
Old Mar 16th 2008 | 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber
The fact that we cannot vote in Spanish general and regional elections is down to the British government which does not grant reciprocal voting rights to Spaniards.

Norway allows resident foreigners to vote in its elections therefore Norwegians can vote in Spanish elections.
My understanding of the law is different. As Norway is not a full EU country - or at least not signed up to all the different charters etc... - there may well exist an agreement between the countries to allow reciprical voting. But EU members living in other EU countries have no voting rights unless they have taken up nationality of the country in which they now reside which involves renouncing your existing nationality (unless it is via marriage to a Spanish national or if you have a child with a Spanish national etc)
 
Old Mar 16th 2008 | 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by sonofspain1973
The left is very well mobilized in this country, not only the electorate, mainly the true tentacles of Zapatero, all his Media with his ideology: TVE1 (as now the PSOE is in the government, it belongs to the PSOE), Cadena Ser, newspaper " El Pais ", some television channels that I believe that they were created to support even more to Shoemaker's government, as Cuatro (that is really vomitive), la Sexta, etc etc etc...

To the PP I believe that they was gone up too much the most absolute to the head (I say it because I have been voter of both parties), they lied a lot and shamelessly, and it is something that voters' of the PP possibly certain sector didn't forgive him, so much lie. The attack of Madrid it not was decisive, because this already came of behind: lies in the case of the Prestige; the accident of the Yakolev; the biological weapons of the war of Iraq...Were many things, until it happened the attack of Madrid, and for people (possibly certain sector of the electorate of the PP that became undecided) that the PP said without doubting " this it has been thing of ETA ", then they didn't forgive it to PP. Conclusion: punishment in the urns. If the PP had said the truth or at least had said " we will investigate this", PSOE would not possibly have won

A lot of foreign people thinks erroneously that it was only the attack who it changed the vote, and it is not true. As I have already said, this comes of behind, a lie after another lie. And were not simple lies. It is not to support the PSOE, I didn't want the victory of the PSOE. At least the PSOE. But it is necessary to say this
And who was it - when campaigning was supposed to be suspended - that spread this "theory" and mobilised the country against the government to fabricate a completely unelectable party and its farcical, headline grabbing leader such a destructive victory?????

And yes it is true that Rajoy has no charisma - but then back in 2004, that is what they all said about Zipi y Zapi, and Rajoy was still the preferred choice prior to PSOE's dirty tricks.
 
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Originally Posted by rachelk
The laws governing elections are European ones.
The constitution says the Government of Spain is chosen by Spanish Nationals, nothing to do with Europe.
Originally Posted by Beachcomber
Spain does not recognise dual nationality.
That's not true. Dual nationality is dealt with on a case by case basis. For example Ronaldinhio has dual nationality (so he doesn't count as a foreigner in the Spanish League and so he can still play for Brazil).
 
Old Mar 17th 2008 | 3:25 am
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Charisma, charisma. Felipe Gonzalez had tons of charisma, and he left the government indebted as never before since Philip II. And a rate of unemployement comparable to 3rd world countries. That is the reason salaries are so low in Spain, in relation with the size of the economy: companies have enjoyed the most qualified generation of workers ever in Spain, but they could pay peanuts because they were always going to find somebody to fill the vacancy.

Aznar has not charisma. But the country created 4 million jobs when he was president. Sod the charisma
 
Old Mar 17th 2008 | 5:54 am
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Bokeh, see mu subsequent post (Nº7) qualifying this:

Originally Posted by Beachcomber
You do not have to renounce your nationality in order to obtain Spanish nationality if you are from Latin America, Andorra, Phillipines, Ecuatorial Guinea or Portugal.
 

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