View Poll Results: Did you:
Buy a LEGAL house in Spain?



36
87.80%
Buy an ILLEGAL house in Spain, but it was/can be legalised?



4
9.76%
Buy and ILLEGAL house in Spain and it has been/will be demolished?



1
2.44%
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Is your house illegal?
#16
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Years ago when my mother bought our house, she assumed all was in order.
Later on I discovered that the plot wasn't correctly measured, and there was an obligation put on us as the owners to contribute to the upkeep of the local church.
I went absolutely mental, as the only contribution I would be happy with would come in long sticks with short fuses.
You can never ensure 100% saftey when you purchase in Spain. Surveyors are practically non existant, and even with all the sensible precautions, you can still be sold a pup.
Only solution? Don't buy a house.
Later on I discovered that the plot wasn't correctly measured, and there was an obligation put on us as the owners to contribute to the upkeep of the local church.
I went absolutely mental, as the only contribution I would be happy with would come in long sticks with short fuses.
You can never ensure 100% saftey when you purchase in Spain. Surveyors are practically non existant, and even with all the sensible precautions, you can still be sold a pup.
Only solution? Don't buy a house.
#17
Years ago when my mother bought our house, she assumed all was in order.
Later on I discovered that the plot wasn't correctly measured, and there was an obligation put on us as the owners to contribute to the upkeep of the local church.
I went absolutely mental, as the only contribution I would be happy with would come in long sticks with short fuses.
You can never ensure 100% saftey when you purchase in Spain. Surveyors are practically non existant, and even with all the sensible precautions, you can still be sold a pup.
Only solution? Don't buy a house.
Later on I discovered that the plot wasn't correctly measured, and there was an obligation put on us as the owners to contribute to the upkeep of the local church.
I went absolutely mental, as the only contribution I would be happy with would come in long sticks with short fuses.
You can never ensure 100% saftey when you purchase in Spain. Surveyors are practically non existant, and even with all the sensible precautions, you can still be sold a pup.
Only solution? Don't buy a house.
Are you saying you believe there IS a problem with illegal houses in Spain ....... or there IS'NT a problem with illegal houses in Spain?

#19
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Sorry, should have clarified. Put it down to brain fade.
That house was in the UK. Despite all the measures in place in the UK, we still ended up with what we weren't expecting.
In Spain, quite clearly there is a problem. The question is, how big. This is something that has not been addressed as all we have is speculation.
To be honest, those who bought knowing that the property was dodgy, sorry, but what did you expect? Those who did all they should and still got shafted, my sympathy to those as yet un-numerated folk, but that's what happens when houses are bought and sold in ANY market save those that are 100% regulated, and I'd question even that.
As with protecting your house against burglars, you can only do so much.
The only 100% guarantee, is to not buy a house.
Buying even a legal house has risks. Subsidence, poor foundations, damp etc etc etc.
That house was in the UK. Despite all the measures in place in the UK, we still ended up with what we weren't expecting.
In Spain, quite clearly there is a problem. The question is, how big. This is something that has not been addressed as all we have is speculation.
To be honest, those who bought knowing that the property was dodgy, sorry, but what did you expect? Those who did all they should and still got shafted, my sympathy to those as yet un-numerated folk, but that's what happens when houses are bought and sold in ANY market save those that are 100% regulated, and I'd question even that.
As with protecting your house against burglars, you can only do so much.
The only 100% guarantee, is to not buy a house.
Buying even a legal house has risks. Subsidence, poor foundations, damp etc etc etc.
#20
I`m very confident my cortijo is legal , its over 100 years old, escritura / nota simple etc all in my name, registered as a dwelling not a tool shed like so many ,guess I was lucky as at the time I was unaware of the many potential problems ,cortijos / old town houses seem a much safer bet,
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Ours too is over 100, possibly nearer 200 years old. It's a dwelling. It used to own all the land in the valley. I believe it's legal. The escritura shows the pool. I believe we'll be fine. Am I sure? Sure as hell not. I agree older houses seem the safer bet but I'm not convinced given what little we do know of Spanish planning/housing/mapping history.
btw, what does iirc mean?
#21
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Ours too is over 100, possibly nearer 200 years old. It's a dwelling. It used to own all the land in the valley. I believe it's legal. The escritura shows the pool. I believe we'll be fine. Am I sure? Sure as hell not. I agree older houses seem the safer bet but I'm not convinced given what little we do know of Spanish planning/housing/mapping history.
btw, what does iirc mean?
btw, what does iirc mean?

#22
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#23
Interesting. Ours like almost all the houses there was built on what was an old stock road, a canada real (There's supposed to be a tilde over the 'n'). Basically people built along the sides of the road, reducing its size to just a canada/canada ancho, so it's quite possible that even then the illegality was rampant.
'ñ' is a completely different letter
#26
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Hey, give me a chance, and I'll be out of the UK so fast it will make your head spin.
Good news on that front actually. I faced the prospect of sticking out the next 4 - 9 years in the UK, but my son is coming into the business, and if he runs it there's hope I could be gone in a year or so, all going well.
Good news on that front actually. I faced the prospect of sticking out the next 4 - 9 years in the UK, but my son is coming into the business, and if he runs it there's hope I could be gone in a year or so, all going well.
#27
Hey, give me a chance, and I'll be out of the UK so fast it will make your head spin.
Good news on that front actually. I faced the prospect of sticking out the next 4 - 9 years in the UK, but my son is coming into the business, and if he runs it there's hope I could be gone in a year or so, all going well.
Good news on that front actually. I faced the prospect of sticking out the next 4 - 9 years in the UK, but my son is coming into the business, and if he runs it there's hope I could be gone in a year or so, all going well.
I might just let you off then
maybe
#30
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There is of course the further option -
I believe I bought a legal house
Because: you & solicitor did what you could/should to check it all out, it's a couple of hundred years old, has escritura, swimming pool's on there, etc etc but how can you really tell until something goes belly up & the system turns out to be even more flawed than anyone could ever believe, or a previous owner's extensions didn't actually have the proper licences........
I believe I bought a legal house
Because: you & solicitor did what you could/should to check it all out, it's a couple of hundred years old, has escritura, swimming pool's on there, etc etc but how can you really tell until something goes belly up & the system turns out to be even more flawed than anyone could ever believe, or a previous owner's extensions didn't actually have the proper licences........



