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busters mum Oct 3rd 2007 11:12 pm

Yes or No
 
Should i get a residencia, yes or no, i will count up and go with the majority as people i work with think it is not worth the hassle or the paper it is written on :confused::confused:

Mitzyboy Oct 3rd 2007 11:16 pm

Re: Yes or No
 
You have no choice Busters Mum ..... its a requirement now in Spain that you apply for a residencia certificate.

lynda32 Oct 3rd 2007 11:19 pm

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Oh i had no idea. When did this come into place??? I was under the impression that Residencia was always optional:confused:

busters mum Oct 3rd 2007 11:20 pm

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Thats what i thought, i have only been here 3 months and have done all the other stuff, i have the forms filled in.
The subject came up at work and a couple of them said why bother ? mind you one of them has been here 5 years and i had to explain what a padron was !!!

sarahchirles Oct 3rd 2007 11:23 pm

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by lynda32 (Post 5385661)
Oh i had no idea. When did this come into place??? I was under the impression that Residencia was always optional:confused:

Me too. If someone in the know could post a link with up to date rules that would be good.

busters mum Oct 3rd 2007 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by sarahchirles (Post 5385676)
Me too. If someone in the know could post a link with up to date rules that would be good.

That would be great as none of us want to be illegals !!
Every time you ask someone it's a different story!

lynda32 Oct 3rd 2007 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by busters mum (Post 5385696)
That would be great as none of us want to be illegals !!
Every time you ask someone it's a different story!

Yeah thats true!!!:rofl:

Mitzyboy Oct 3rd 2007 11:40 pm

Re: Yes or No
 
Residents cards ceased to be for new applicants I think in March and before this time it was optional. After that it became a requirement to apply for a residents certificate. Its been discussed on here on a few occasions, and also my abogado has confirmed it to me.

Its simply a question of going to the Police station, filling out a form, taking ID and it costs just under 6 euros. You dont even need photos now. Having said that the queues at the Police station in Gandia are absolutely horrendous and you might find yourself there all day.

If your friend doesnt know what a padron is then I wouldn't take too much notice of what they say you need and dont need.

Padron and residencia are two of the important things for you to address.

busters mum Oct 3rd 2007 11:47 pm

Re: Yes or No
 
Hi, i already have my padron and picked up my n.i.e. on tuesday.
I went at about 12.30. no queues at all straight in and seen, this has been the same the 3 times i have been, i think the secret is go later.
Will do residencia tomorrow, do i have to hand in form and then go back, if so how long does it take ?

lynda32 Oct 3rd 2007 11:53 pm

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5385729)
Residents cards ceased to be for new applicants I think in March and before this time it was optional. After that it became a requirement to apply for a residents certificate. Its been discussed on here on a few occasions, and also my abogado has confirmed it to me.

Its simply a question of going to the Police station, filling out a form, taking ID and it costs just under 6 euros. You dont even need photos now. Having said that the queues at the Police station in Gandia are absolutely horrendous and you might find yourself there all day.

If your friend doesnt know what a padron is then I wouldn't take too much notice of what they say you need and dont need.

Padron and residencia are two of the important things for you to address.


Thanks for the info. I am concerned though because i know in Benidorm there has been a huge problem and people have been queuing up since 11pm the night before and still not been taken the following day. Cant queue all night with a kid!!! Does anyone know if you can instruct a Gestoria to act on behalf of you and get them for you?:huh:

busters mum Oct 3rd 2007 11:57 pm

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by lynda32 (Post 5385773)
Thanks for the info. I am concerned though because i know in Benidorm there has been a huge problem and people have been queuing up since 11pm the night before and still not been taken the following day. Cant queue all night with a kid!!! Does anyone know if you can instruct a Gestoria to act on behalf of you and get them for you?:huh:

Leave the kid in the queue and you can turn up when the office opens, just joking !!!

lynda32 Oct 4th 2007 12:05 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by busters mum (Post 5385789)
Leave the kid in the queue and you can turn up when the office opens, just joking !!!

lol:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Now theres an idea:eek:

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 12:14 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by busters mum (Post 5385757)
Hi, i already have my padron and picked up my n.i.e. on tuesday.
I went at about 12.30. no queues at all straight in and seen, this has been the same the 3 times i have been, i think the secret is go later.
Will do residencia tomorrow, do i have to hand in form and then go back, if so how long does it take ?

You amaze me .... every time I've been there they have been out of the door!!! You do mean Gandia by the Hospital don't you?
You have to complete the form, hand it in, then you will be given a payment slip which you have to take to a bank to pay, then you return for the form. I have been up there about 4 times now and have found massive queues, but that was in July and August


Originally Posted by lynda32 (Post 5385773)
Does anyone know if you can instruct a Gestoria to act on behalf of you and get them for you?:huh:

You have to apply in person for the document I'm afraid

jdr Oct 4th 2007 12:14 am

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Info on it has been in the free beer thread since the start of it thanks to Fred. :thumbsup:

Have a browse though the links now and again :thumbup::thumbup:

lynda32 Oct 4th 2007 12:28 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5385854)
You amaze me .... every time I've been there they have been out of the door!!! You do mean Gandia by the Hospital don't you?
You have to complete the form, hand it in, then you will be given a payment slip which you have to take to a bank to pay, then you return for the form. I have been up there about 4 times now and have found massive queues, but that was in July and August



You have to apply in person for the document I'm afraid

Oh dear.....not great:thumbdown:

rugbymatt Oct 4th 2007 12:37 am

Re: Yes or No
 
No, definately not.............no wait..yeah, do it................yeah definately do it.



Wait, no! don't do it, I wouldn't........I think I wouldn't any way!!

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 12:49 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5385958)
No, definately not.............no wait..yeah, do it................yeah definately do it.



Wait, no! don't do it, I wouldn't........I think I wouldn't any way!!

as I remember, you used to be indecisive but I don't think you are sure now are you!

rugbymatt Oct 4th 2007 12:50 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5385999)
as I remember, you used to be indecisive but I don't think you are sure now are you!

I just cant make my mind up about that either!

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 12:52 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5386004)
I just cant make my mind up about that either!

why dont you just have a think about it and let us know when you come to a decision maybe sometime

rugbymatt Oct 4th 2007 12:53 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5386013)
why dont you just have a think about it and let us know when you come to a decision maybe sometime

I might do...but I'm not sure I should so don't worry about it........

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 12:56 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5386018)
so don't worry about it........

I'm not sure if I was

rugbymatt Oct 4th 2007 12:57 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5386037)
I'm not sure if I was

and I'm not sure I thought you were worried either...

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5386045)
and I'm not sure I thought you were worried either...


well dont worry about it then, eh!

rugbymatt Oct 4th 2007 12:59 am

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5386055)
well dont worry about it then, eh!

I might not............glad that's sorted........kind of.

lynda32 Oct 4th 2007 1:05 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5386057)
I might not............glad that's sorted........kind of.

I dunno.....do you think i should?????:rofl::rofl:

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 1:12 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by lynda32 (Post 5386081)
I dunno.....do you think i should?????:rofl::rofl:


No definately not, and dont listen to anything he says ....... hes a bad man

lynda32 Oct 4th 2007 1:17 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5386115)
No definately not, and dont listen to anything he says ....... hes a bad man

ok then i wont do it:rofl::rofl::rofl:
thanks for helping me decide!!!!!:thumbsup:

busters mum Oct 4th 2007 1:29 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5385854)
You amaze me .... every time I've been there they have been out of the door!!! You do mean Gandia by the Hospital don't you?
You have to complete the form, hand it in, then you will be given a payment slip which you have to take to a bank to pay, then you return for the form. I have been up there about 4 times now and have found massive queues, but that was in July and August



You have to apply in person for the document I'm afraid

the one next to the court, opposite free car park, carrer laval ?

Mitzyboy Oct 4th 2007 2:02 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by busters mum (Post 5386192)
the one next to the court, opposite free car park, carrer laval ?

up the paseo, left after the hospital, first right and its straight in front of you ..... side entrance, glass doors, big room, no organisation, living hell etc etc

busters mum Oct 4th 2007 2:42 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5386303)
up the paseo, left after the hospital, first right and its straight in front of you ..... side entrance, glass doors, big room, no organisation, living hell etc etc

thats the one, speak very loudly, jump the queue and sit at the desk untill you get what you want, well thats what the spanish do and it seems to work !!!

SueG Oct 4th 2007 3:06 am

Re: Yes or No
 
We applied for ours back in February before the new law came in. Spoke to a lawyer (English) but in Spain and she said "Don't bother I haven't got one"!! Went into the local town hall on Monday and said we had applied and not heard anything - would we hear or should we reapply under the new directions. She said hang on under the old system and we should hear something in about a year but we could reapply under the new system. To be honest I don't have a clue what to do and especially as we would have to go to Benidorm.:frown:

busters mum Oct 4th 2007 3:25 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by SueG (Post 5386546)
We applied for ours back in February before the new law came in. Spoke to a lawyer (English) but in Spain and she said "Don't bother I haven't got one"!! Went into the local town hall on Monday and said we had applied and not heard anything - would we hear or should we reapply under the new directions. She said hang on under the old system and we should hear something in about a year but we could reapply under the new system. To be honest I don't have a clue what to do and especially as we would have to go to Benidorm.:frown:

Exactly what i mean, the goalposts are moved every day.
What is the penalty if you don't do it ?

XTreme Oct 4th 2007 3:37 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by busters mum (Post 5386617)
Exactly what i mean, the goalposts are moved every day.
What is the penalty if you don't do it ?

Red card I'll wager! :lol:

busters mum Oct 4th 2007 3:41 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by XTreme (Post 5386659)
Red card I'll wager! :lol:

Don't want to be sent off !!

sunnydee Oct 4th 2007 3:56 am

Re: Yes or No
 
The form you need is EX16. If you haven't already got an NIE number this form is all you need both for your NIE number and to register as a foreign (EU) resident in Spain. If you already have a NIE number using the old forms it is considered temporary for 3 months and you can fill in an EX16 including putting the NIE number you have been given. You get back a green certificate with your details on once you have paid the fee at the bank. This is done on the same day where I am. If the certificate isn't a green one then it won't be excepted at the social security offices etc.
When I got here we went to the police station and got forms for NIE numbers, filled it in and was told to come back in October. When I started my job I had to go through the whole process again because I had been given the old form and I needed to sign on at the social security office. I had been so proud of myself for working out how to get my NIE and thought I was being very organised!

jdr Oct 4th 2007 4:00 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by sunnydee (Post 5386743)
The form you need is EX16. If you haven't already got an NIE number this form is all you need both for your NIE number and to register as a foreign (EU) resident in Spain. If you already have a NIE number using the old forms it is considered temporary for 3 months and you can fill in an EX16 including putting the NIE number you have been given. You get back a green certificate with your details on once you have paid the fee at the bank. This is done on the same day where I am. If the certificate isn't a green one then it won't be excepted at the social security offices etc.
When I got here we went to the police station and got forms for NIE numbers, filled it in and was told to come back in October. When I started my job I had to go through the whole process again because I had been given the old form and I needed to sign on at the social security office. I had been so proud of myself for working out how to get my NIE and thought I was being very organised!

They always find another form to fill in if you get too smart. lol

sunnydee Oct 4th 2007 4:08 am

Re: Yes or No
 
Too true, JDR. :D I am very fortunate that I get paid time off to sort all this stuff out, especially as it usually takes most of a day to do it!

rugbymatt Oct 4th 2007 4:12 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5386115)
....... hes a bad man

You sound like the father of almost every single woman I have dated!!

mikelincs Oct 4th 2007 4:21 am

Re: Yes or No
 

Originally Posted by busters mum (Post 5385757)
Hi, i already have my padron and picked up my n.i.e. on tuesday.
I went at about 12.30. no queues at all straight in and seen, this has been the same the 3 times i have been, i think the secret is go later.
Will do residencia tomorrow, do i have to hand in form and then go back, if so how long does it take ?

Your residencia certificate will let you change you bank accounts to resident ones, this gives you better interest rates, lower in the case of loans, and higher in the case on interest on money held here. You also need it for many other things, or at least it will make life simpler, as will the padron. When I bought my car, I was asked for a lot of documents, but as soon as I produced the padron, that was all they needed.

SueG Oct 4th 2007 4:27 am

Re: Yes or No
 
Ok so what do people reckon I do - leave it or re-apply with all that entails at Benidorm?


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