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Old Jul 6th 2018, 4:34 pm
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I wonder if anyone here could recommend a red Spanish wine that Spanish people drink chilled ? It's extremely hot here in the UK at the moment, and I don't usually enjoy white wine.
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Old Jul 6th 2018, 5:16 pm
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They drink all and any red wine chilled. Be brave! It works...........
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Old Jul 6th 2018, 6:19 pm
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Here (El Hierro) they drink Vino de Verano, a large cold red wine shandy.
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If you want a Spanish red and you are going to buy it in the UK your choice will be very limited. Most of the Spanish reds will be fairly heavy, most are Crianza or Reserva which means they have been aged in oak for some time.

If if you were buying in Spain there are lots of inexpensive young reds, often labelled Joven or just Roble and around €5 or even less and these would be good chilled.

You might be better off if in the UK to buy a young Beaujolais! Or as Bosely said drink something like a shot of a Spanish red with lemonade - a Tinto de Verano in Spain.
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Old Jul 6th 2018, 10:17 pm
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Thanks very much everyone. I'll try both of those ideas. This heat day after day is getting intolerable.
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Old Jul 6th 2018, 10:49 pm
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If you want a Spanish red and you are going to buy it in the UK your choice will be very limited. Most of the Spanish reds will be fairly heavy, most are Crianza or Reserva which means they have been aged in oak for some time.

If if you were buying in Spain there are lots of inexpensive young reds, often labelled Joven or just Roble and around €5 or even less and these would be good chilled.

You might be better off if in the UK to buy a young Beaujolais! Or as Bosely said drink something like a shot of a Spanish red with lemonade - a Tinto de Verano in Spain.
Most cheap reds in the UK are Spanish so just pick some up in Tesco and try it.
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Old Jul 7th 2018, 7:38 am
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In the UK for decent Spanish red wine you should visit Aldi and search out their Toro Loco wines. They do red and white there is standard and Reserva at good price and a very decent red wine whichever one you buy or how you choose to drink it.
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Old Jul 7th 2018, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by spainrico View Post
They drink all and any red wine chilled. Be brave! It works...........
I cannot understand why red wine is often served chilled here. Each to his own no doubt, but to me it takes away the flavour. White, yes, but red, never.
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Yes but it only needs to be in your glass 5 minutes before it comes up to a decent temperature.
It's not supposed to be drunk chilled, but neither is it supposed to be drunk at 35º or more.
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I cannot understand why red wine is often served chilled here. Each to his own no doubt, but to me it takes away the flavour. White, yes, but red, never.

The recommended temperature to serve red wine is between 13c to 18c. The lighter reds at the lower end and the fuller reds at the top end. Both are difficult to achieve in an ambient temperature of over 30c!

Conversely, white wines should not be served straight out of the fridge. 7c to 13c is correct with sparking wines at the lower end.

That said, just drink it how you like it!
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Originally Posted by Sancho View Post
I wonder if anyone here could recommend a red Spanish wine that Spanish people drink chilled ? It's extremely hot here in the UK at the moment, and I don't usually enjoy white wine.
In the North of Spain the kids mix it with Coca-Cola Kalimotxo.....Alternatively just try sangria.
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or water <LOL>
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Old Jul 8th 2018, 5:26 am
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Thanks very much again for all the thoughts.

There isn't an Aldi near here but I've sent the char's husband, a kitchen and bathroom fitter, to get me a couple of bottles of Toro Loco. Will report back.

(I've been to Toro - a little place near Leon and not far from the Portuguese border with a mirador over the Duero and a painted cathedral, which provided all the wine (red) for Columbus's first expedition. There's a Spanish-American looking baroque town hall with a cracked bell on top and a blazing hot plaza where, when I was there, there were lots of wine shops. I wish I'd asked about this there, but I had a glass of wine and I have a feeling it came un-chilled. If it had been chilled I think I'd have remembered.

Anyway, I see Toro Loco doesn't come from Toro. It comes from between Barcelona and Gibraltar. Presumably the name just means 'mad bull' or something.

Thanks for the remarks about temperature. I have a wine thermometer gadget. It's a sort of collar that goes round the bottle and LED lights come on to show the temperature. Made in China, I think, and hasn't been a howling success so far, but I might have been using it wrongly. I prefer red wine because white wine seems to quickly get sickly, even if it started off OK. I wonder if that's got something to do with it heating up, or maybe I'm just using the wrong sort of white wine.

Also in my experience red wine's usually drinkable the day after. White wine isn't.

Sangria's definitely a possibility. Why did I think of it for myself ? I'd be grateful for any knowledgable suggestions as to how it should be made.

(There are recipes on the internet, but they mostly seem to be for people in America and I don't think trust them.)

I'd never heard of Vino/Tinto de Verano, but it sounds possibly better - less sweet for one thing. So thanks for that too.

Wine with coca-cola isn't just for kids. Workmen in Rome drink it too. White wine with coca-cola, that is. I haven't drunk it but it looks as revolting as it sounds. In North Yorkshire that sort of thing'd get you labelled as a southern ponce.

The Senegalese national drink is essence - cheap (Algerian ?) red wine mixed 50/50 with local lager, usually warm. That's vile too, but it gets you drunk, which is all it's meant to do. In French essence means 'petrol'.

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In Asda bottom shelf........
A number of Spanish reds @ under £4.00, mix half & half with asda diet lemonade (0% everything) and you then have Tinto con Gaseosa that is drunk everywhere in Spain (ish)
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Originally Posted by Sancho View Post
Sangria's definitely a possibility. Why did I think of it for myself ? I'd be grateful for any knowledgable suggestions as to how it should be made.
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What a great post!

As for the sangira / tinto de verano - the easiest way I find, rather than messing with fruit and spices but to get something a bit more than just red wine and lemonade, is to mix it with tonic water, or diet tonic if you want. Enjoy.
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