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la mancha Mar 31st 2013 1:12 am

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This ‘focus’ report originates from the IE University based in Madrid and Segovia. It is a business school, so the report is hardly unbiased, is it? You can make what you like from data from anywhere in the world, but I just read on the IE University website that Spain will need something like over 864,000 new IT posts by 2015, and guess what? The IE University teaches IT. It doesn't report on where they are needed, it only quotes Brussels as saying they are needed, and we all know how much a Brussels report is worth. Just where do you find these obscure reports? And why?

jackytoo Mar 31st 2013 1:22 am

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Interesting. I rarely read Stevies links to blogs and obscure websites anymore.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 31st 2013 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10633355)
Interesting. I rarely read Stevies links to blogs and obscure websites anymore.

Likewise,

You can almost guarantee, as with this one, that they come from a source with a vested interest or an ax to grind.

Still a very long and rocky road ahead yet, methinks, so I won't be going out dancing in the streets just yet, Stevie lad.

As for the property situation, I imagine those who are understandably very worried about their funds in Spanish Banks, may well transfer them into property if they're unable for whatever reason to take them back to the UK.

However I have to wonder what the next stupid move the Govt.will make to shoot itself in the foot, if this occurs on any noticeable scale.

Pocaloca Mar 31st 2013 4:00 am

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I think this article from El Pais gives a more realistic picture of Spain today.

Three million in extreme poverty

I know poverty is relative, but the fact is that Spain now has the biggest wealth gap in Europe - i.e. the gap between the richest 20% and the poorest 20%.

If the cost of economic recovery is falling wages and a big decline in living standards for the majority, it all starts to sound a bit hollow.

rugbymatt Mar 31st 2013 4:22 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10633547)
I think this article from El Pais gives a more realistic picture of Spain today.

Three million in extreme poverty

I know poverty is relative, but the fact is that Spain now has the biggest wealth gap in Europe - i.e. the gap between the richest 20% and the poorest 20%.

If the cost of economic recovery is falling wages and a big decline in living standards for the majority, it all starts to sound a bit hollow.

There lies the rub eh? Is it really worth it?

steviedeluxe Mar 31st 2013 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 10633340)
This ‘focus’ report originates from the IE University based in Madrid and Segovia. It is a business school, so the report is hardly unbiased, is it? You can make what you like from data from anywhere in the world, but I just read on the IE University website that Spain will need something like over 864,000 new IT posts by 2015, and guess what? The IE University teaches IT. It doesn't report on where they are needed, it only quotes Brussels as saying they are needed, and we all know how much a Brussels report is worth. Just where do you find these obscure reports? And why?

You don't need to look up the IE report (found easily enough via Twitter) to see that Spain has performed exceptionally well recently as regards exports. For instance the new site theLocal had this on january's figures:
http://www.thelocal.es/page/view/spa...y#.UVhp-1fvjxd

Exports soared by 43.8 percent to Asia, 16.6 percent to Africa and 15.1 percent to Latin America, the government said, noting in particular a rise in exports to emerging markets such as India, up 35.4 percent, China, up 15.2 percent, and Brazil, up 28.5 percent.
The point is, that the way to get out of the depression is to increase exports to parts of the world that are in growth. I'd like to feel that the UK could concentrate more on this (we certainly have the talent), instead of tearing itself to pieces over pasty or bedroom tax.

la mancha Mar 31st 2013 5:59 am

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In your last link to the IE University focus report they quoted a Brussels source that said that Spain needs 864,000 new IT posts by 2015. Do you believe this, yes or no?

steviedeluxe Mar 31st 2013 6:07 am

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 10633664)
In your last link to the IE University focus report they quoted a Brussels source that said that Spain needs 864,000 new IT posts by 2015. Do you believe this, yes or no?

Has the page changed? I'm looking again and it has plenty of information about exports, competitiveness, a trade surplus etc., but nothing if I search for "Brussels", "864,000" or "report" ??? :confused:

http://focus.ie.edu/why-spain-becomi...ort-powerhouse


Fifth, as a consequence of the above points Spain has reached record levels of exports of goods and services (€350,000 million per annum). In 2011 a trade surplus was achieved, with the exception of energy, for the first time in fifteen years. In 2012 Spain exported more goods and services than it imported for the first time since the Euro was introduced, which explains why it is now on the way to having a current account surplus, and is therefore saving in aggregate terms vis-à -vis the rest of the world. Export levels of Spanish goods and services now account for 35% the country’s GDP, placing it second only to Germany in this respect among the main EU economies.

casa del sol Mar 31st 2013 6:14 am

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So what they are saying is falling wages is now making Spain more competitive and their export market is doing well.


The export boom has added nine points to Spain’s GDP in record time because Spain’s exporters have not only managed to maintain levels of productivity in the good years, but also raise them in very difficult times.


Lower house prices must be beneficial for the Spanish people, lower prices mean lower wages are more able to buy them, everything else is going up.

la mancha Mar 31st 2013 8:05 am

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Click on your focus link and when the page shows click on ‘home’ at the top of the page. You will see it there. It was your link, after all. I would stay away from links if you have difficulty navigating them. And I repeat the question. Do you agree with what Brussels says when it states Spain needs 864,000 IT posts by 2015?

jackytoo Mar 31st 2013 8:21 am

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Also that "university:huh:" is a recently opened FOR PROFIT joint:rofl:

steviedeluxe Mar 31st 2013 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10633355)
Interesting. I rarely read Stevies links to blogs and obscure websites anymore.

Strange that you appear here so often though?:confused:

steviedeluxe Mar 31st 2013 9:24 am

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Originally Posted by la mancha (Post 10633770)
Click on your focus link and when the page shows click on ‘home’ at the top of the page. You will see it there. It was your link, after all. I would stay away from links if you have difficulty navigating them. And I repeat the question. Do you agree with what Brussels says when it states Spain needs 864,000 IT posts by 2015?

Ah, so nothing to do with this thread (about exports) but a completely different article written by someone else! Plenty of other sites point out the rise in Spanish exports, and for some reason this upsets you. I'd suggest that if you want to talk about different subjects, whether it be pubcos or It vacancies, then start a thread about it. On the other hand if you really believe that things are going to totally fall apart, then why waste time arguing the toss about it here?

la mancha Mar 31st 2013 9:25 am

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Well, do you agree with the Brussels statement that Spain needs 864,000 new IT posts by 2015?

la mancha Mar 31st 2013 9:28 am

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Actually, I am quoting from YOUR thread post. So what's your problem?


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