Now I know you're talking shite!

I love a Welsh accent

Read it and weep guys!

yeah, pity that accent generally spouts crap!

You read a lot of Oscar Wilde then Matt?

Never heard of the bloke, what band did he play with?

Hey - aren't you destroying another thread - get off this one

yeah, because it would be much better to hear a couple of sad bitter welshies moan on about how crap the British are!

[QUOTE=Mitzyboy;5414720]....

In general no one could care a toss if someone is Welsh or English for as far as they are concerned they are the same. Anyone who thinks different are deluding themselves .... he Welsh might think they are independent, but without English backing financially and with infrastructure they would be well and truly shagged


Sorry for the delay in replying! Just back on my feet after a Polish lorry drive put me in hospital after demolishing my car. Anyway.

Something for Mitzyboy to read about Wales and the Welsh. Seems we are doing pretty well actually!!


The first country in the world to move from an agricultural economy to an industrial economy.
The first country in the world to move into the Iron Age in 1000 BC.
By 1500 BC Welsh was the dominant language of all of northern Europe.
St David's is the smallest city in Europe.
Mount Everest was named after a Welshman (Sir George Everest from Crickhowell - surveyor-general of India 1865).
The Royal Mint (Llantrisant), according to the Guiness Book of Records, is the world's oldest company.
According to the larest research, Jesus' grandmother (Mary's mother) was Welsh!
Alfred Russell Wallace, first wrote his theory of 'Natural Selection' ten years before his friend and colleague Darwin (who's wife was also Welsh). Due to the theory contradicting his religious beliefs would not publish them.
The rude 'two-fingered' salute used today is a legacy from the Welsh archers that won the battles of Agincourt, Crecy and Poitiers.
They were so hated by the French that, if caught, would have the first two fingers of their 'draw' hand were cut off.
Modern orthopedic surgery was founded by a Welshman.
The Japanese call Wales 'the Land of Gentle Folk'.
'Wonderland' (Lewis Caroll's 'Alice in Wonderland' was set in Llandudno - 'Alice' was Alice Liddell).
Antidisestablishmentarianism started in Wales
Rupert Bear (his adventures were set in Beddgelert).
Peter Rabbit's garden was in Tenby.
Tudor architecture (the Tudors were Welsh).
The 'Beefeaters' (started by Henry Tudor).
Tenovus Cancer charity (Cardiff-based).
First lawn tennis match (Monmouthshire).
First steam engine journey - Merthyr (Richard Trevithick).
The world's oldest narrow-guage railway.
The world's first passenger train line (Swansea).
A Welshman (David Hughes, born Corwen) first invented the microphone and radio.
A Welshman (Harry Grindell Mathews) first invented the portable phone, talking pictures (modern movies) and the sky projector Rorke's Drift (South Wales Boarders).
The Welsh equivalent of St Valentine's Day is "St Dwynwen's Day" 25th January.
Jack Daniels Bourbon, Evan Williams Bourbon and Mathews Southern Comfort were all first brewed by Welsh brewers who left Wales during the temperance period of the Welsh non-conformist church. For example, Jack Daniels was born in Ceredigion).
The Welsh invented Whiskey and most corn-based liquor.
The Welsh invented stout (including the recipe for what is now branded as 'Guinness').
Captain (Henry) Morgan, the infamous Pirate and rum producer, was Welsh. The first recorded libel case. Captain Morgan set this legal precedent - objecting to passages in Esquemeling's book on privateers.
Welsh pirates were the most successful of all, apparently because most of them didn't drink!
Captain Morgan was the founder of Kingston, Jamaica as a fortress etc. and the Welsh accent is credited as being the origin of the Caribbean accent they have today.
The 'Jolly Roger' (skull and crossbones) pirates' flag was developed by the Pembrokeshire pirate Bartholomew Roberts, known as 'Black Barti'. Because Barti wore a red coat, the French called him 'Le Joli Rouge', which was corrupted to Jolly Roger by the English and eventually became synonymous with the flag, rather than the person.
Welshman Henry V (born Monmouthshire) was the first monarch to use English as the official language and all official documents.
utankhamun - Lord Caernarfon (discovered the tomb of Tutankhamun).
30% of all UK volunteers in World War I were Welsh.
The oldest castle in the UK; Chepstow castle.
The real Indiana Jones (the 19th century Govenor Jones of Indiana) was Welsh.
Kellogs (from the Welsh for chicken - hence the logo) was founded by a Welsh family.
World champion clay-pigeon shooting team.
John Lewis (founder of the famous John Lewis's department store in London) was Welsh.
World's first co-operative was started by a Welshman.
The world's largest camera obscura at Aberystwyth.
The world's largest 'Orangery' (since 1787) - at Margam Abbey.
The world's largest nickel mine - Swansea.
World's first modern crematorium (Trefforest) was Welsh.
World's first health service was started in Wales.
Most microwave ovens per capita in the world!
The 1877 Cardiff versus Newport rugby match was the first sporting event of any kind ever to be played under flood lights.
The "Electric Light Game" was scoreless and was not recognised as an official fixture.
Welsh children regularly out-perform their English counterparts in 'A' level results and Wales has a higher percentage of MENSA members than England. Welsh inventions include: the condom, the femidom, Ronseal's 'paint & grain', mail order, the Dyson valve, the BBC's time 'pips', Radar, non-spillable baby's mug, the microphone, the mobile phone, the cell battery, telegraph, concorde (Chairman of the design committee was Ryan Morgan).
We have no fewer than three National Parks, five Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty, more than 700 Sites of Special Scientific Interest, dozens of Nature Reserves and seven RSPB Bird Sanctuaries - nowhere is the green, green grass greener.
Welsh is a P-Celtic language developed (along with Breton and Cornish) from Brythonic, which was once spoken over most of Britain: it was the language of the natives at the time of the Roman invasion.


That ok with you?
Leighton

The first country in the world to move into the Iron Age in 1000 BC.
By 1500 BC Welsh was the dominant language of all of northern Europe.
St David's is the smallest city in Europe.
Mount Everest was named after a Welshman (Sir George Everest from Crickhowell - surveyor-general of India 1865).
The Royal Mint (Llantrisant), according to the Guiness Book of Records, is the world's oldest company.
According to the larest research, Jesus' grandmother (Mary's mother) was Welsh! Whatever!

The rude 'two-fingered' salute used today is a legacy from the Welsh archers that won the battles of Agincourt, Crecy and Poitiers.
They were so hated by the French that, if caught, would have the first two fingers of their 'draw' hand were cut off.Its a myth, there is absolutely no mention of this in any records, and as bowmen were all commoners they were always executed.


'Wonderland' (Lewis Caroll's 'Alice in Wonderland' was set in Llandudno - 'Alice' was Alice Liddell).


Tudor architecture (the Tudors were Welsh).Henry Tudor was born in Wales, his father was from Hertfordshire
The 'Beefeaters' (started by Henry Tudor).You mean the Yeoman Warders, and they were started IN london.


First steam engine journey - Merthyr (Richard Trevithick).Camborne Hill.The Puffing Devil





Jack Daniels Bourbon, Evan Williams Bourbon and Mathews Southern Comfort were all first brewed by Welsh brewers who left Wales during the temperance period of the Welsh non-conformist church. For example, Jack Daniels was born in Ceredigion).He was born in Lynchburg, his family sailed from Ceredigion


Captain Morgan was the founder of Kingston, Jamaica as a fortress etc. and the Welsh accent is credited as being the origin of the Caribbean accent they have today.Kingston was founded by refugees from a massive earthquake
The 'Jolly Roger' (skull and crossbones) pirates' flag was developed by the Pembrokeshire pirate Bartholomew Roberts, known as 'Black Barti'. Because Barti wore a red coat, the French called him 'Le Joli Rouge', which was corrupted to Jolly Roger by the English and eventually became synonymous with the flag, rather than the person. His flag never had a skull and crossbones, and there is a theory that it comes from the Tamil Pirate Ali Raja
Welshman Henry V (born Monmouthshire) was the first monarch to use English as the official language and all official documents.
utankhamun - Lord Caernarfon (discovered the tomb of Tutankhamun).George Herbert, 5th Earl of Carnarvon was as English as an English man could be!!
30% of all UK volunteers in World War I were Welsh. cannon fodder, no work...
The oldest castle in the UK; Chepstow castle. Old Sarum? 300BC?

Kellogs (from the Welsh for chicken - hence the logo) was founded by a Welsh family.American owned since 1908

John Lewis (founder of the famous John Lewis's department store in London) was Welsh. Born in Somerset

The world's largest camera obscura at Aberystwyth.Invented by Arabs




Most microwave ovens per capita in the world! and that's a good thing?


Welsh inventions include: Radar, the Scots may have an issue with that telegraph again, English and American invention, not surprisingly by Mr Morse!!, concorde Mostly French, we only offered the technical help as we couldn't afford to finance the rest of the reserch itself(Chairman of the design committee was Ryan Morgan).
We have no fewer than three National Parks, England has 10, whats your point?five Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty, more than 700 Sites of Special Scientific Interest, dozens of Nature Reserves and seven RSPB Bird Sanctuaries - nowhere is the green, green grass greener.
Welsh is a P-Celtic language developed (along with Breton and Cornish) from
That ok with you?

Very interesting Imj, but it doesn't make much difference to what I said

You didn't need to go into such detail, Matt. Anything good that has come out of Wales can be negated in two words...


...Max Boyce!

That's true of course, but any chance to ridicule the Welsh should be jumped on at every moment.

Who is Max Boyce?

Exactly!