who can you trust in spain?
Mar 18th 2009, 9:36 am
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
Spain is an attractively easy place for prospective expats from the UK.
There`s regular cheap flights, the weather, etc etc.
Recently though I`ve heard the Costa del Sol described as the biggest council estate outside of the UK.
Many expat area`s have suffered due to low income families arriving.
There`s regular cheap flights, the weather, etc etc.
Recently though I`ve heard the Costa del Sol described as the biggest council estate outside of the UK.
Many expat area`s have suffered due to low income families arriving.
Mar 18th 2009, 12:14 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
Spain is an attractively easy place for prospective expats from the UK.
There`s regular cheap flights, the weather, etc etc.
Recently though I`ve heard the Costa del Sol described as the biggest council estate outside of the UK.
Many expat area`s have suffered due to low income families arriving.
There`s regular cheap flights, the weather, etc etc.
Recently though I`ve heard the Costa del Sol described as the biggest council estate outside of the UK.
Many expat area`s have suffered due to low income families arriving.
The only ones I see are the ones on the Suns half a quid for two weeks holidays.
Mar 18th 2009, 2:42 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
It was a quote from a reporter who lives on the Costa Del Sol and working on a UK tv programme entitled "Costa Del Sol Street Crime".
It was made during an interview regarding the increase in Police arrest`s of British teenagers belonging to resident Expat families living within the Benalmadena/Torremolinos area.They also mentioned the amount of families who currently are claiming benefits whilst in Spain.
They also mentioned the increase in domestic violence cases which involved single parents/family break ups in the are, explaining that many marriage break ups occur in Spain and blamed the price of alcohol as a major facture in many incidents
How factual this is I have no idea.
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Mar 18th 2009, 5:17 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
The same goes for marraige split ups, I think it is the lack of language, work, money and extra stress that causes many problems and is certainly not only the Brits this affects.
Mar 18th 2009, 5:25 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
If you were to ask, as this programme did, the policia local who or what is too blame, you may well differ this opinion.
Many expats list the youth/problems in the UK for there move away, only to be supprised to find the same style of hoody on Spanish streets.
The reporter used on that programme has been in the Costa for some decades.
The costa`s, especially the sol contain some of Europes most wanted/active individuals and groups, he is more active in his investigations/reports today than in previous years.
Mar 18th 2009, 5:53 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
If you were to ask, as this programme did, the policia local who or what is too blame, you may well differ this opinion.
Many expats list the youth/problems in the UK for there move away, only to be supprised to find the same style of hoody on Spanish streets.
The reporter used on that programme has been in the Costa for some decades.
The costa`s, especially the sol contain some of Europes most wanted/active individuals and groups, he is more active in his investigations/reports today than in previous years.
Many expats list the youth/problems in the UK for there move away, only to be supprised to find the same style of hoody on Spanish streets.
The reporter used on that programme has been in the Costa for some decades.
The costa`s, especially the sol contain some of Europes most wanted/active individuals and groups, he is more active in his investigations/reports today than in previous years.
The same would happen if it was an Eastern European, German or Scandi TV show, they all beef it up to make their work ratings look good. ;-))
Where I live there are plenty of naughty boys of all nationalities, but most of them behave themselves now and stay below the radar. ;-)
Mar 18th 2009, 6:16 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
He is writing for a UK TV program, and you know how any kids get gobby if they think they will be on TV.
The same would happen if it was an Eastern European, German or Scandi TV show, they all beef it up to make their work ratings look good. ;-))
Where I live there are plenty of naughty boys of all nationalities, but most of them behave themselves now and stay below the radar. ;-)
The same would happen if it was an Eastern European, German or Scandi TV show, they all beef it up to make their work ratings look good. ;-))
Where I live there are plenty of naughty boys of all nationalities, but most of them behave themselves now and stay below the radar. ;-)
One incident was four Irish lads around mid 20`s, all stabbed with knives in a bar in Fuengirola.The police arrived with the film crew and meet with them all bleeding from various wounds.
It was clear all four were drunk and the usual type of situation we all see on a Saturday.
The disturbing bit was that the ambulances didn`t turn up and after 2 collapsed with severe bleeding the worried officers placed the men in there vehicles and drove off to the local hospital.
Officers were interviewed after and explained this is a regular occurence, especially ambulances not turning up.
The only difference between a UK council estate and Spain was the language, weather and lack of medical attention.
Mar 18th 2009, 6:29 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
It was an interview on a programme that spends 3 months a year filming whilst in the company of the Benalmadena and Fuengirola Policia.
One incident was four Irish lads around mid 20`s, all stabbed with knives in a bar in Fuengirola.The police arrived with the film crew and meet with them all bleeding from various wounds.
It was clear all four were drunk and the usual type of situation we all see on a Saturday.
The disturbing bit was that the ambulances didn`t turn up and after 2 collapsed with severe bleeding the worried officers placed the men in there vehicles and drove off to the local hospital.
Officers were interviewed after and explained this is a regular occurence, especially ambulances not turning up.
The only difference between a UK council estate and Spain was the language, weather and lack of medical attention.
One incident was four Irish lads around mid 20`s, all stabbed with knives in a bar in Fuengirola.The police arrived with the film crew and meet with them all bleeding from various wounds.
It was clear all four were drunk and the usual type of situation we all see on a Saturday.
The disturbing bit was that the ambulances didn`t turn up and after 2 collapsed with severe bleeding the worried officers placed the men in there vehicles and drove off to the local hospital.
Officers were interviewed after and explained this is a regular occurence, especially ambulances not turning up.
The only difference between a UK council estate and Spain was the language, weather and lack of medical attention.
Mar 19th 2009, 7:39 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
We don't like the tattooed, pierced, drunken, common Brits here.
The way they treat the Spanish is disgusting, we are guests in their country, we live here permanently, so we see it all the time.
Most times it makes us ashamed to be British.
Wendy x
The way they treat the Spanish is disgusting, we are guests in their country, we live here permanently, so we see it all the time.
Most times it makes us ashamed to be British.
Wendy x
Mar 19th 2009, 8:00 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
As long as you are an active member of the community you are anything but a guest. This is why your vote in local elections is so important and it angers me immensely when expats say they don't feel they should vote as they are merely guests.
Which reminds me, if you haven't got yourself on the electorla roll do it now. Euro elections are in June and there is usually a two month deadline for people to register.
Mar 19th 2009, 8:05 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
That is a huge misconception. As long as you pay your local taxes, contribute into the society etc etc you are an active member of said society and not a guest - if we were guests, wouldn't we be exempt from all this??? After all, when you invite guests to your house for dinner, you don't expect them to pay for the meal, clean the plates etc.....
As long as you are an active member of the community you are anything but a guest. This is why your vote in local elections is so important and it angers me immensely when expats say they don't feel they should vote as they are merely guests.
Which reminds me, if you haven't got yourself on the electorla roll do it now. Euro elections are in June and there is usually a two month deadline for people to register.
As long as you are an active member of the community you are anything but a guest. This is why your vote in local elections is so important and it angers me immensely when expats say they don't feel they should vote as they are merely guests.
Which reminds me, if you haven't got yourself on the electorla roll do it now. Euro elections are in June and there is usually a two month deadline for people to register.
As well we have been here over 5 years, I speak a little Spanish, my husband speaks much more.
Wendy x
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Mar 26th 2009, 1:24 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
After reading all the comments, I have decided my attitude was wrong. From my first visit to Spain in 1969, the changes I thought would have come from EU membership have not all arrived. Yet. What I mean to say is that where one man sees 'corruption', the next man sees a 'cool drink'.
Paying someone to achieve a good result is the way of many countries, so we should not be too sniffy and holier than thou to admit that this system actually works.
Paying someone to achieve a good result is the way of many countries, so we should not be too sniffy and holier than thou to admit that this system actually works.
Mar 26th 2009, 2:11 pm
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Re: who can you trust in spain?
After reading all the comments, I have decided my attitude was wrong. From my first visit to Spain in 1969, the changes I thought would have come from EU membership have not all arrived. Yet. What I mean to say is that where one man sees 'corruption', the next man sees a 'cool drink'.
Paying someone to achieve a good result is the way of many countries, so we should not be too sniffy and holier than thou to admit that this system actually works.
Paying someone to achieve a good result is the way of many countries, so we should not be too sniffy and holier than thou to admit that this system actually works.