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Fred James Aug 31st 2012 1:23 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10256869)
Sheffield University is top rate, ranked 8th in the Complete University Guide.

It's rated 28th when I just checked.

Pocaloca Aug 31st 2012 1:39 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10256882)
It's rated 28th when I just checked.

You're quite right! Typo, sorry.

28th out of 119 still not bad though!

agoreira Aug 31st 2012 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10256882)
It's rated 28th when I just checked.

Read this recently, talking about ratings of universities, the first Spanish one was 200th.
http://www.abc.es/20120816/sociedad/...208152209.html
It's from the Chinese, but Spanish universities fare no better in the other surveys, the last highest I saw was around position 150. So that makes Sheffield look brilliant! ;)

agoreira Aug 31st 2012 2:04 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10256858)

If it was really not in the UK's interests economically to be in the EU then surely the Tories and big business would be unanimous in wanting to pull out, but they aren't, are they? :unsure: They must be getting something out of it?

They're getting there slowly, the calls for getting out get stronger all the time.

Majority Of Conservative Party Members Want Britain To Leave The EU
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011...n_1172300.html
Don't forget the Tories got where they are thanks in part to a promised referendum. As yet it hasn't arrived, but Dave knew what the electorate wanted, that's why it was in their manifesto. Now Dave has told us 'It's time to open the door and consider a referendum' We're still waiting, Dave!

steviedeluxe Aug 31st 2012 2:08 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 10256882)
It's rated 28th when I just checked.

I get the suspicion the rankings may need altering soon

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ondon-Met.html


More universities where students have a poor grasp of English could lose the valuable right to admit foreigners after the Government took the unprecedented step of stripping such powers from London Metropolitan.

Pocaloca Aug 31st 2012 4:01 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10256966)
They're getting there slowly, the calls for getting out get stronger all the time.

Don't forget the Tories got where they are thanks in part to a promised referendum. As yet it hasn't arrived, but Dave knew what the electorate wanted, that's why it was in their manifesto. Now Dave has told us 'It's time to open the door and consider a referendum' We're still waiting, Dave!

He promised the referendum because that's what most Tory voters want - but most of his paymasters, the big business interests, want to stay in the EU so they are not so keen on a referendum.

UK Business Groups Hedge Their Bets - Financial Times

agoreira Aug 31st 2012 4:50 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10257197)
He promised the referendum because that's what most Tory voters want -

Indeed it is, that's why he scraped in. On a promised referendum. But we all know a politicians promise is not worth an awful lot, but when it comes to the next election the Tory voters (or more likely the floating voters) are the one's that will decide Dave's future, not the big businesses. They will well remember that he spoke with forked tongue!

Pocaloca Aug 31st 2012 5:23 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10257271)
Indeed it is, that's why he scraped in. On a promised referendum. But we all know a politicians promise is not worth an awful lot, but when it comes to the next election the Tory voters (or more likely the floating voters) are the one's that will decide Dave's future, not the big businesses. They will well remember that he spoke with forked tongue!

Well, he sounds like a complete slime-bag to me! I hear him on the radio sometimes, trying to sound reassuring ... but he just comes out creepy.

I hope the UK doesn't leave the EU because it would just end up a satellite of the USA - though perhaps that's what people want? I would stay in Spain, regardless!

nogard Aug 31st 2012 7:06 am

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:p

Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10257345)
Well, he sounds like a complete slime-bag to me! I hear him on the radio sometimes, trying to sound reassuring ... but he just comes out creepy.

I hope the UK doesn't leave the EU because it would just end up a satellite of the USA - though perhaps that's what people want? I would stay in Spain, regardless!

Sounds like? He is; all politicians are!:sneaky:

Domino Sep 1st 2012 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 10257271)
Indeed it is, that's why he scraped in. On a promised referendum. But we all know a politicians promise is not worth an awful lot, but when it comes to the next election the Tory voters (or more likely the floating voters) are the one's that will decide Dave's future, not the big businesses. They will well remember that he spoke with forked tongue!

and are you suggesting Bliar and Blown didnt speak with forked tongue.?

from day 1 they were making multiple press releases about the £billions they were pumping into the NHS, doing good works.
but it was all lies.

never trusted a politician don't see why I should change now.........

Pocaloca Sep 1st 2012 10:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10259259)
and are you suggesting Bliar and Blown didnt speak with forked tongue.?

from day 1 they were making multiple press releases about the £billions they were pumping into the NHS, doing good works.
but it was all lies.

Well, it wasn't strictly lies, they did pump billions into the NHS but the money mainly went to private companies and paying astronomical salaries to doctors!

Noo Labour were obsessed with technology and targets, and front line care suffered as a result.

Never mind, once Dave and George have finished, there won't be an NHS left to worry about.

Pocaloca Sep 1st 2012 10:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10259259)
never trusted a politician don't see why I should change now.........

So who should run the country? A dictator? Or maybe you're an anarchist?

steviedeluxe Sep 1st 2012 10:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10259742)
Well, it wasn't strictly lies, they did pump billions into the NHS but the money mainly went to private companies and paying astronomical salaries to doctors!

Noo Labour were obsessed with technology and targets, and front line care suffered as a result.

Never mind, once Dave and George have finished, there won't be an NHS left to worry about.

I hate to say this, but whatever Dave and George tinker with, will be the least of our problems. I'm not saying Spain or Italy or any other Euro country is in a better situation either. Just that an almighty crash is coming.

http://www.economicvoice.com/wp-cont...nment-Debt.PNG

Beaverstate Sep 1st 2012 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 10259749)
I hate to say this, but whatever Dave and George tinker with, will be the least of our problems. I'm not saying Spain or Italy or any other Euro country is in a better situation either. Just that an almighty crash is coming.

http://www.economicvoice.com/wp-cont...nment-Debt.PNG

:eek::(

mogsmum Sep 1st 2012 10:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10259742)
Well, it wasn't strictly lies, they did pump billions into the NHS but the money mainly went to private companies and paying astronomical salaries to doctors!

Noo Labour were obsessed with technology and targets, and front line care suffered as a result.

Never mind, once Dave and George have finished, there won't be an NHS left to worry about.

Yep
Here I am ( new to the forums) A nurse in the NHS targets, targets targets, not enough worrying about basic care of patients. I am lucky I work in a small hospital with fantastic staff.. our ethos around patient care is strong. It is the gov targets and constant form filling that causes us the most grief, and intereference with regards to common sense policies - Common sense - a bad word.
One of the reasons why I am applying for early retirement before they start to change the pensions again etc - Although I do count myself as fortunate to be in a position of being the right age to not be affected by recent changes, and that I had the opportunity if getting an NHS pension - its not huge, but better than those who have none:fingerscrossed:

Pocaloca Sep 1st 2012 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259764)
Yep
Here I am ( new to the forums) A nurse in the NHS targets, targets targets, not enough worrying about basic care of patients. I am lucky I work in a small hospital with fantastic staff.. our ethos around patient care is strong. It is the gov targets and constant form filling that causes us the most grief, and intereference with regards to common sense policies - Common sense - a bad word.
One of the reasons why I am applying for early retirement before they start to change the pensions again etc - Although I do count myself as fortunate to be in a position of being the right age to not be affected by recent changes, and that I had the opportunity if getting an NHS pension - its not huge, but better than those who have none:fingerscrossed:

Are you my mum?! :D

She is saying exactly the same things!

jackytoo Sep 1st 2012 11:58 pm

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I have never supported labour but I have to admit we were pleasantly suprised by the improvements to the NHS on returning. Unless we just happen to be lucky and have a good area.

LeavingtheUK Sep 2nd 2012 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by olivefarmer (Post 10254997)
I tend to agree with you Beast.

Sticking with the Euro and handing over control to an unelected bunch in Brussels means years of pain for Spain. Well into the 2020's. I am afraid as yet the ordinary man in the street hasn't felt the real pain yet. As such they haven't thought too hard about revolting.

As to bail outs. Spain was apparently too big to bail out. Now it appears it isn't with a bit of creativity. Merkel is just kicking the tin along until she is re elected. Have you seen any EU countries that have been bailed out and the populace are happy? far better in my view to default, start with a clean slate and re introduce the peseta. Sure their would be hefty devaluation. Spain could easily up tourism by 50% with some simple measures

What simple measures? Write to the president of Spain an give him you expert advice, please.

Do you speak Spanish? Then you will understand what an "entendido" is. That's what you are, my love.

EsuriJohn Sep 2nd 2012 12:17 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259764)
Yep
Here I am ( new to the forums) A nurse in the NHS targets, targets targets, not enough worrying about basic care of patients. I am lucky I work in a small hospital with fantastic staff.. our ethos around patient care is strong. It is the gov targets and constant form filling that causes us the most grief, and intereference with regards to common sense policies - Common sense - a bad word.
One of the reasons why I am applying for early retirement before they start to change the pensions again etc - Although I do count myself as fortunate to be in a position of being the right age to not be affected by recent changes, and that I had the opportunity if getting an NHS pension - its not huge, but better than those who have none:fingerscrossed:

Well done correct decision, you deserve the pension that you will have paid at least 6 per cent of your pre tax wage for all your working life. Take it now and enjoy your retirement in Spain. You should be able to take it tax free in UK pay tax in Spain and transfer it when you wish so that you can take advantage of the ups in the FX rate.

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 12:26 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10259810)
Are you my mum?! :D

She is saying exactly the same things!

LOL No but expect she is coming from the same place as me. love the job. love what we do, but like most things it life things change.. we change the sytsem changes either you change with it or if you are able you get out. Is mum in spain or uk?
xx:)

whitelinen Sep 2nd 2012 12:52 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259918)
Advise yes, but nor sarcasm, i really cannot be doing with it


If you cannot cope with sarcasm I suggest you put 90% of members on your ignore list.

I saw nothing wrong with the post :D

EsuriJohn Sep 2nd 2012 12:53 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259918)
thanks however please do not take the "attitude" which is how this post comes across -

If you cannot answer without sarcasm please put me on your ignore list. Advise yes, but nor sarcasm, i really cannot be doing with it

however if i have mistunderstood apologies

Yes you have misunderstood big time I worked 43 years paying 6 plus per cent for my pension only to be told by the Daily Mail I did not deserve it and should not retire in the sun. But then it takes all sorts from 15 I paid tax and NI and joined superan at 18 and pay tax to HMRC till the day I depart this mortal coil.

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 12:58 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 10259945)
Yes you have misunderstood big time I worked 43 years paying 6 plus per cent for my pension only to be told by the Daily Mail I did not deserve it and should not retire in the sun. But then it takes all sorts from 15 I paid tax and NI and joined superan at 18 and pay tax to HMRC till the day I depart this mortal coil.

Ah now I see, and I apolgise... It came across that it was sarcasm directed at me once again hats off to you apologies. :thumbup:

Yep well thats the daily mail for you, heaven forbid anyone would do anything for themselves and make there own decisons. I will get the mods to delete my response to your post

Regards
MM
PS Where are you based?

me me Sep 2nd 2012 12:59 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 10259941)
If you cannot cope with sarcasm I suggest you put 90% of members on your ignore list.

I saw nothing wrong with the post :D

Neither did I.


Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259918)
thanks however please do not take the "attitude" which is how this post comes across -

If you cannot answer without sarcasm please put me on your ignore list. Advise yes, but nor sarcasm, i really cannot be doing with it

however if i have mistunderstood apologies


The posters in question are not known for sarcastic posts, and at least you have apologised, welcome to the forum by the way.:D

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 1:00 am

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 10259941)
If you cannot cope with sarcasm I suggest you put 90% of members on your ignore list.

I saw nothing wrong with the post :D

please see below

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 1:01 am

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 10259950)
Neither did I.




The posters in question are not known for sarcastic posts, and at least you have apologised, welcome to the forum by the way.:D

many thanks

I think I read the post in a different light. However I have now removed the post and apologised to the poster in question.:o In future will take breath and re read.
MM

me me Sep 2nd 2012 1:03 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259957)
many thanks

I think I read the post in a different light. However I have now removed the post and apologised to the poster in question.:o In future will take breath and re read.
MM

We have all had our moments......:)

EsuriJohn Sep 2nd 2012 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259947)
Ah now I see, and I apolgise... It came across that it was sarcasm directed at me once again hats off to you apologies. :thumbup:

Yep well thats the daily mail for you, heaven forbid anyone would do anything for themselves and make there own decisons. I will get the mods to delete my response to your post

Regards
MM
PS Where are you based?

Ayamonte which we concluded after much research. Was our little bit of Spanish paradise.

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 1:13 am

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 10259961)
We have all had our moments......:)

Bit like cats with 9 lives. however only been here 24 hours and managed to alienate peeps already, and used one life up!

Thanks
MM

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 1:14 am

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Originally Posted by John & Kath (Post 10259968)
Ayamonte which we concluded after much research. Was our little bit of Spanish paradise.

Are you there full time or split between UK/Spain.

EsuriJohn Sep 2nd 2012 1:21 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259976)
Are you there full time or split between UK/Spain.

Almost full time but Kaths mum is 92 so we do make frequent trips back and try to coincide those with her birthday and our three adult children's birthdays.

Domino Sep 2nd 2012 1:22 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10259746)
So who should run the country? A dictator? Or maybe you're an anarchist?

well, Spain, Italy and Greece have put accountants in charge or in charge of various political positions but in all instances have just turned into politicians.

A country is like a megacorp, you have to have a leader and a board, but their actions are not for political expediency, just for the purpose of profit.
Perhaps that is the way a country should be run - it would make more sense.

Pocaloca Sep 2nd 2012 2:28 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259910)
LOL No but expect she is coming from the same place as me. love the job. love what we do, but like most things it life things change.. we change the sytsem changes either you change with it or if you are able you get out. Is mum in spain or uk?
xx:)

She's in the UK, but unfortunately can't afford to retire for another three or four years. I am trying to persuade her to cut down her hours though, before the stress kills her off!

Pocaloca Sep 2nd 2012 2:37 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10259988)
well, Spain, Italy and Greece have put accountants in charge or in charge of various political positions but in all instances have just turned into politicians.

A country is like a megacorp, you have to have a leader and a board, but their actions are not for political expediency, just for the purpose of profit.
Perhaps that is the way a country should be run - it would make more sense.

Definitely not! Everyone should have a voice, we can't leave running the country to the people who got it in this mess in the first place - and I'm talking about the accountants and bankers, rather than the politicians. We still live in a democracy and ordinary people should get more involved in politics, not less.

I don't want to be a human resource in a megacorp! I'd rather run off and join the anarchists!

johnnyone Sep 2nd 2012 3:20 am

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca (Post 10260069)
Definitely not! Everyone should have a voice, we can't leave running the country to the people who got it in this mess in the first place - and I'm talking about the accountants and bankers, rather than the politicians. We still live in a democracy and ordinary people should get more involved in politics, not less.

The people who got us in this mess is ourselves, the voters. It's alright blaming the bankers , the politicians, et al, however we the people have the power but we were seduced by believing the boom would never end.

We only have ourselves to blame.

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 5:12 am

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Originally Posted by johnnyone (Post 10260093)
The people who got us in this mess is ourselves, the voters. It's alright blaming the bankers , the politicians, et al, however we the people have the power but we were seduced by believing the boom would never end.

We only have ourselves to blame.

There is some truth in this.. As consumers we believed the hype buy now pay later.. well we are all paying now, even though some of us did not buy then! The banks and politicians are also complacent its a lesson hard learnt but will probably be forgotten once the boom times comes back

me me Sep 2nd 2012 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by mogsmum (Post 10259973)
Bit like cats with 9 lives. however only been here 24 hours and managed to alienate peeps already, and used one life up!

Thanks
MM

Count yourself lucky that you are still in the UK, because if you were in Spain you would be down to 6 lives, as cats here only get 7 lives to start with......:D

mogsmum Sep 2nd 2012 6:24 am

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LOL:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


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