well digging
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Re: well digging
Ah, an intelligent and thoughtful comment.
Oh but then it wasn't, was it gollum?
Precioussssss....
Oh but then it wasn't, was it gollum?
Precioussssss....
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Re: well digging
Bil down here in the Chiclana area, you have to have a licenced well digger and all the right paperwork, they charge about a 1,000 euro to dig the thing then extra for all the pipes and such like, takes a day to dig and then another to connect. They advertise along the roadside, look out when next over for the big grey concrete round drain thingy along the side of the road with POZO and a telephone number on. I have just had a thought I think there is a sticky stuck on the pylon outside the gate, I'll have a look tomorrow for you.
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In all cases prior to drilling, authorization is required by the ministry of mines. Also authorization to extract water is granted by the ministry of environment.
http://www.waterwells.org/
This is a good read bil.
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/il...pain_may06.pdf
http://www.waterwells.org/
This is a good read bil.
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/il...pain_may06.pdf
Last edited by poshnbucks; Apr 26th 2009 at 1:21 am.
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Re: well digging
Well, the tank I need anyway The pump would be directly powered, probably by a savonius rotor, as those are pretty solid and low tech, so DC/AC isn't relevant.
As I say, if the grief and cost of a well are too high, I'll skip it.
A friend tells me that he knows an estate agen that reckons most wells in Spain are illegal.
As I say, if the grief and cost of a well are too high, I'll skip it.
A friend tells me that he knows an estate agen that reckons most wells in Spain are illegal.
I have a well which is for sole use to my house it did cost several thousend euros but I have all the legal paper work. If your pump goes pop it can cost over a thousend euros to get a truck and pipe extractor to remove the pipe to get access to the motor and repair/replace same. The lowest cost is the actual licence which cost us 13 euros from the Waterboard or the Spanish equivalent. The well provides water for both my home and my orange groves.I bought the plastic bottle from the pharmacy about 6 months ago to have the water tested for drinking, The test costs 49 euros but the bottle is still in the plastic bag on my to do list. I do get rather fed up hawking those eight litre bottles so I might get it tested soon.
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Re: well digging
Hi
I live in the area and know most wells are illegal. They are also put too near the septic tanks of neighbours and the like.
Near here (ten miles inland) if you go below five metres, you hit SALT water; so yes it is best to contact an expert.
If the hole uses a plastic pipe, then it is not an artisian well but a bore hole (perforacion in spanish).
Pumps are regularily pulled up and replaced without any problems in perforacions, the reason they wear out quickly can be they pull in sand as they are too near the bottom of the perforacion.
Dave in Chiclana
I live in the area and know most wells are illegal. They are also put too near the septic tanks of neighbours and the like.
Near here (ten miles inland) if you go below five metres, you hit SALT water; so yes it is best to contact an expert.
If the hole uses a plastic pipe, then it is not an artisian well but a bore hole (perforacion in spanish).
Pumps are regularily pulled up and replaced without any problems in perforacions, the reason they wear out quickly can be they pull in sand as they are too near the bottom of the perforacion.
Dave in Chiclana
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Re: well digging
No Matt, you don't. Every other person who has contributed to this thread has been helpful. People have taken the time and the trouble to search out data for me, Chris is looking for a local company, and to everyone who has contributed I would like to say a big thank you. A board like this is a valuable source of networked resources, and I think it's a shame that this should be tainted by someone whose only input has been to sarcastically comment that I should go for it because it isn't a skilled job.
Idiot. Of course it is, but just because a job requires skills, doesn't mean one shouldn't strive to aquire said skills. I don't need the level of expertise to detect the presence of water, because there is a functioning well nearby, and because a well in sandy soil can be dug without hi tech gear, I don't need those skills either. Far quicker to get it drilled, of course, but then like most, I am short on cash, rich in time, and my labour comes free.
Now please grow up, and if you can't post in a well mannered fashion, don't post at all in the grownup section and take the juvenile attitude elsewhere.
Idiot. Of course it is, but just because a job requires skills, doesn't mean one shouldn't strive to aquire said skills. I don't need the level of expertise to detect the presence of water, because there is a functioning well nearby, and because a well in sandy soil can be dug without hi tech gear, I don't need those skills either. Far quicker to get it drilled, of course, but then like most, I am short on cash, rich in time, and my labour comes free.
Now please grow up, and if you can't post in a well mannered fashion, don't post at all in the grownup section and take the juvenile attitude elsewhere.
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Re: well digging
No Matt, you don't. Every other person who has contributed to this thread has been helpful. People have taken the time and the trouble to search out data for me, Chris is looking for a local company, and to everyone who has contributed I would like to say a big thank you. A board like this is a valuable source of networked resources, and I think it's a shame that this should be tainted by someone whose only input has been to sarcastically comment that I should go for it because it isn't a skilled job.
Idiot. Of course it is, but just because a job requires skills, doesn't mean one shouldn't strive to aquire said skills. I don't need the level of expertise to detect the presence of water, because there is a functioning well nearby, and because a well in sandy soil can be dug without hi tech gear, I don't need those skills either. Far quicker to get it drilled, of course, but then like most, I am short on cash, rich in time, and my labour comes free.
Now please grow up, and if you can't post in a well mannered fashion, don't post at all in the grownup section and take the juvenile attitude elsewhere.
Idiot. Of course it is, but just because a job requires skills, doesn't mean one shouldn't strive to aquire said skills. I don't need the level of expertise to detect the presence of water, because there is a functioning well nearby, and because a well in sandy soil can be dug without hi tech gear, I don't need those skills either. Far quicker to get it drilled, of course, but then like most, I am short on cash, rich in time, and my labour comes free.
Now please grow up, and if you can't post in a well mannered fashion, don't post at all in the grownup section and take the juvenile attitude elsewhere.
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Re: well digging
Bil down here in the Chiclana area, you have to have a licenced well digger and all the right paperwork, they charge about a 1,000 euro to dig the thing then extra for all the pipes and such like, takes a day to dig and then another to connect. They advertise along the roadside, look out when next over for the big grey concrete round drain thingy along the side of the road with POZO and a telephone number on. I have just had a thought I think there is a sticky stuck on the pylon outside the gate, I'll have a look tomorrow for you.
I don't suppose you happen to know the sort of vehicle they use, do you?
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Re: well digging
In all cases prior to drilling, authorization is required by the ministry of mines. Also authorization to extract water is granted by the ministry of environment.
http://www.waterwells.org/
This is a good read bil.
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/il...pain_may06.pdf
http://www.waterwells.org/
This is a good read bil.
http://assets.panda.org/downloads/il...pain_may06.pdf
The other document is, as you say, an interesting read. It is tho referring only to those wells etc that are extracting HUGE amounts of water (as compared to a domestic residence with a garden. Also, my proposed setup would not increase the amount of water extracted, it would just split it between two wells.
Given that the Spanish government is so gung ho about wind power, do you think that using such a setup to 'green' my place would give it more weight?
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Re: well digging
Haven't you got a degree or something to do? Or are you too busy boosting your amazing post rate? I think you must post more per annum than everyone else on this thread put together, and to be frank, with less intelligent contribution than any of them.
The quality and nature of your posts just reinforce this.
As I said before if you can't contribute, leave the rest of us to discuss the subject in a grownup fashion.
The quality and nature of your posts just reinforce this.
As I said before if you can't contribute, leave the rest of us to discuss the subject in a grownup fashion.
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Re: well digging
Hi
I live in the area and know most wells are illegal. They are also put too near the septic tanks of neighbours and the like.
Near here (ten miles inland) if you go below five metres, you hit SALT water; so yes it is best to contact an expert.
If the hole uses a plastic pipe, then it is not an artisian well but a bore hole (perforacion in spanish).
Pumps are regularily pulled up and replaced without any problems in perforacions, the reason they wear out quickly can be they pull in sand as they are too near the bottom of the perforacion.
Dave in Chiclana
I live in the area and know most wells are illegal. They are also put too near the septic tanks of neighbours and the like.
Near here (ten miles inland) if you go below five metres, you hit SALT water; so yes it is best to contact an expert.
If the hole uses a plastic pipe, then it is not an artisian well but a bore hole (perforacion in spanish).
Pumps are regularily pulled up and replaced without any problems in perforacions, the reason they wear out quickly can be they pull in sand as they are too near the bottom of the perforacion.
Dave in Chiclana
The septic tank issue is very valid. You sure as hell don't want to be close and 'downstream' of one of those.