Complete nonsense

Jobs was a design and marketing genius. The iPod, iPhone and iPad were first to market in their category - and let us do things that we couldnt do before due to the design of their user interface

I have an iPhone and iPad and I am very pleased with them. There are cheaper Samsung and Android devices that may even be better, but if price isnt much of an issue then who cares

It took me years to come round to Apple as I thought it was just hype and I actually hate their marketing and ridiculous launch events

I believe he hired a talented Brit designer who was behind a lot of those innovations?

Edit - Jonathan Ive

So it should be the IvePod, IvePad & IvePhone

I'd argue that their real strength (as the original video I posted shows clearly) that Apple (under Jobs) always had an uncanny ability to predict trends, and invent stuff that nobody knew they needed, yet quickly found out they couldn't do without. ...at any price.

Fact is, Samsung wouldn't be the number 1 phone maker without Apple. Most of what Samsung has done they can thank Apple (and Steve jobs) for creating their market for them, and then copying the idea.

Before Apple, Nokia was #1, and we all know what happened to Nokia when the first iPhone was released.

I think Microsoft also owes a great credit to Steve Jobs as well - Windows was clearly an attempt to copy of what Apple did with the Macintosh, but Microsoft only adopted it long after the Mac was released (and so many, including Microsoft publicly claiming the idea was a non-starter).

Before you mention Xerox, I'm not saying Apple invented everything - only that they had the vision and the will to take it to market in such a way that made them a huge success, despite the huge consort of nay-sayers.

As the video shows, the Steves sold their humble possessions to live out their vision, which they truly believed in. And they were allowed to do that with little resistance, and just look what they achieved.

Forget how rich Steve jobs became, think about all the people they employ worldwide - on good salaries and benefits - and all the people who also believed in Apple and became pretty wealthy from that,too (including little old ladies who bought a few shares of their stock in 1984). And all those beneficiaries pay taxes, too.

This for me, epitomizes the spirit of great entrepreneurialism and serves as a testament to what people can achieve if they are allowed to.

Actually, Apple dont employ many people at all given that they are the USA's no.1 company based on the value of their shares... and their bank balance. About 80,000 across the world

Their story is a typical liberal capitalist one. Pay a few talented people in the West very well and sub-contract the production to the cheapest bidder in the East - and dont ask how much they are paying their workers!

Except of course when they very nearly went to the wall right?

Yep. A brit was the main design genius behind it. But that guy also was working in an environment which encouraged vision and innovation over just making money. In that environment, it really could have been anyone possessing the vision, enthusiasm and will to make it reality.

Yes, I remember - right after they pushed Jobs out. Almost went bankrupt until they begged him to come back, and that's when Apple became a huge success.

An expected rationale...

Then I suppose they don't speak Spanish either.

He quit after a failed boardroom takeover, he tried to push others out and it backfired. His brilliance and some would argue his skill, was making the Macintosh computer only official if they made it, setting up a precedent for the future, if its not Apple Mac its not official, same goes for programming and accessories.

And if they would have just kept his "wanker", "hell bent on ripping people off" sorry arse out of the company, then I have to reckon they would not have amassed all those riches from making crap products at ridiculous prices and holding guns to everyone's head and forcing them to buy them.

I was one of the lucky ones. Somehow the "Apple police" never showed up at my front door and forced me to buy Apple products. I bought Macs because I wanted to.

I did buy some Apple stock though. Silly me.

thats funny, the Apple Police never showed up at my door either.
but I have never bought a single Apple product, I have an aversion to being locked into a single programme system

OK hit me with Microsoft, but they provide support for companies to build progammes on their base OS.

remember well the arguements tween Chris Currie and Clive Sinclair.

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I am sure that despite the slightly better attitudes to business startups back in 1976 no one felt that the original Apple products - which were just bare-bones PCB's without monitor, keyboard nor a case! - would ever become the massive success they have been. But then they have moved from their original products through a number of re-incarnations.

I can see no reason why a business startup today can't be making the same success in 37 years time.
Just look at
Microsoft,
HP (who still have a large number of industry standard products from the early days)
Oracle (the third-largest software maker by revenue, after Microsoft and IBM)
I would include IBM, but they originally started in 1911, only entering the arena with certain products in the 1970's

Everyone seems to know Jobs & Gates, but few know of Cerf (prog mgr for TCP/IP technology) & Kahn who built the original ARPANET that was the forerunner of the work that Sir Tim Berners-Lee built on to give us the current WWW.

So who will be the next and the next and the ..........