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Fredbargate Mar 20th 2011 10:13 am

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 9251805)
I seem to remember that the French army has won more than it has lost, but I'm damned if I can remember where I read it.

Isn't it a list on the back of a postage stamp?

HBG Mar 20th 2011 10:19 am

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Could this all be a computer game played by some nerds in a bunker in Florida? It can’t be real; Sky News are reporting British fighters making a 3,000 mile round trip to drop bombs, why didn’t they start off from Cyprus? Or Malta?

If it isn’t a computer game, then it’s target practice for a bigger event.

jojojojojo Mar 20th 2011 10:20 am

Re: At war again?
 
Does anyone understand why we're doing this??? I know oil must be involved, I've heard that Lybian oil is the best as it doesnt need so much work to clean it up - but is this what its all about??? Are the west sending in "agitators" to cause all these unrests that are happening around the world? Are they simply hoping that the Lybians will rejoice at CGs (cant spell his name lol) demise (should it happen) and let us run their oil fields????? What????

Jo xxx

rugbymatt Mar 20th 2011 10:21 am

Re: At war again?
 
I blame the Lizards....


(well I mean, FFS, get a grip people!)

jackytoo Mar 20th 2011 11:55 am

Re: At war again?
 
Read in different news sites this morning
The Spanish can't send their aircraft carrier because it's radar system has broken down.
The French one has malfunctioned
The British don't have one.
:rofl:

Can't see it being about oil. Think Libya only has about 3% of the worlds resources:confused: Europe has been getting it anyway, Gaddafi was "onside". Europe has been brown nosing Gaddafi for a few years!

Rosemary Mar 20th 2011 1:31 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9251945)
Read in different news sites this morning
The Spanish can't send their aircraft carrier because it's radar system has broken down.
The French one has malfunctioned
The British don't have one.
:rofl:

Can't see it being about oil. Think Libya only has about 3% of the worlds resources:confused: Europe has been getting it anyway, Gaddafi was "onside". Europe has been brown nosing Gaddafi for a few years!

Never quite figured it out but there is that famous photo of Blair and Gaddafi snoggin´ must come into it somewhere.

Graham

jackytoo Mar 20th 2011 1:42 pm

Re: At war again?
 
Here is one of Gaddafi's visit to Paris

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-fell-out.html

and his state visit to Spain

http://www.rexfeatures.com/set/720807

johnnyone Mar 20th 2011 1:45 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9251086)
Its like the UK is pretending to be a big powerful country and not the pathetic, failing country that it really is! I'm outraged! Jo xxx

So where does that leave Spain, France and most of Europe!

agoreira Mar 20th 2011 1:58 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9251945)
Read in different news sites this morning
The Spanish can't send their aircraft carrier because it's radar system has broken down.
The French one has malfunctioned
The British don't have one.
:rofl:

Can't see it being about oil. Think Libya only has about 3% of the worlds resources:confused: Europe has been getting it anyway, Gaddafi was "onside". Europe has been brown nosing Gaddafi for a few years!

Think the French aircraft carrier has spent more time out of service than in service. Is this the one we're going to share? Bodes well!
Europe, especially France and Spain do use quite a lot of Libyan oil. In fact we account for most of it. I've no doubt it is about oil, and whatever we think of dictators like him, we do have to ensure supplies from somewhere, without it we grind to a halt. It's like any business I imagine, you find yourself dealing with some very unpleasant characters, you might not like them, but if they have something you need, you have to grin and bear it. You just don't have to go overboard like that lameculos Blair! :)


While analysts agree that global oil and gas supplies are hardly at risk, as Libya accounts for only 2 percent of world oil output, countries like Italy, France, and Spain relied on Libya in 2010 for as much as 22 percent, 16 percent, and 13 percent of total crude consumption, respectively – a supply not easily replaced on short notice. Europe receives over 85 percent of Libya's crude exports.

Jingsamichty Mar 20th 2011 2:07 pm

Re: At war again?
 
It surely can't be too much longer before President Sarkozy surrenders, and Colonel Gaddafi is marching triumphantly up the Champs Elysees.

betris Mar 20th 2011 2:09 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9251829)
Does anyone understand why we're doing this??? I know oil must be involved, I've heard that Lybian oil is the best as it doesnt need so much work to clean it up - but is this what its all about??? Are the west sending in "agitators" to cause all these unrests that are happening around the world? Are they simply hoping that the Lybians will rejoice at CGs (cant spell his name lol) demise (should it happen) and let us run their oil fields????? What????

Jo xxx

jo for you to understand you must first understand the new world order.

johnnyone Mar 20th 2011 2:10 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9252111)
It surely can't be too much longer before President Sarkozy surrenders, and Colonel Gaddafi is marching triumphantly up the Champs Elysees.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

jackytoo Mar 20th 2011 2:11 pm

Re: At war again?
 
Gaddafi was voted President of the UN human rights commission in 2003. The vote was 33 to 3 in his favour....funny old world:D

johnh009 Mar 20th 2011 2:14 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9250924)
I was watching Sky News earlier where an American with an impossible number of medals announced in a dead pan voice that their nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean had launched 110 Tomahawk missiles against Libya. I wasn’t surprised and don’t have much of an opinion on the rights or wrongs of the situation.

Spain are in there along with the UK, France and many other Christian nations. Arabs are there too, led by Lebanon of all places.

What did surprise me was the thought of whoever is next? Iran comes to mind, the next big one. I only have around 40 years left before the telegram arrives, and wonder if we’ll still be at war then. The odds aren’t good.

Afganistan must be heading for (or already is) one of the longest campaigns in history. Yet, it only took five years to defeat Nazi Germany and they were a much more effficient outfit.

Rosemary Mar 20th 2011 2:27 pm

Re: At war again?
 

Originally Posted by johnh009 (Post 9252133)
Afganistan must be heading for (or already is) one of the longest campaigns in history. Yet, it only took five years to defeat Nazi Germany and they were a much more effficient outfit.

I think that there were a few more soldiers against the nazis. As to Afganistan it might help if we backed our troops with more than words. I do not think that we will ever win in Afganistan as we tend to respect war convensions Russia did not and they could not manage it.
As to Libya it is obviously about oil, any politician that ignores Rwanda can never ever spout on about human rights etc.

Graham.


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