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I was watching Sky News earlier where an American with an impossible number of medals announced in a dead pan voice that their nuclear submarines in the Mediterranean had launched 110 Tomahawk missiles against Libya. I wasn’t surprised and don’t have much of an opinion on the rights or wrongs of the situation.

Spain are in there along with the UK, France and many other Christian nations. Arabs are there too, led by Lebanon of all places.

What did surprise me was the thought of whoever is next? Iran comes to mind, the next big one. I only have around 40 years left before the telegram arrives, and wonder if we’ll still be at war then. The odds aren’t good.

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Funniest thing is that the Saudis, who are busy surpressing unrest in Bahrain, are in support of giving Gaddafi a hammering.

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I notice that Putin's mob, having first abstained from the vote, have now already jumped into Gaddafis camp by criticising the action.
Must think there's something in it for him, if things don't work out.
Birds of a feather, methinks.

Seems to me that once Gadaffi is stopped in his tracks, there could be stalemate for a while, until either the rebels get their act together or gaddafis mercenary rats desert the sinking ship.

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It reminds of a story, sorry. My wife and I were in a local bar during the Balkan bombings. A Serbian woman was sitting at the next table with her son, a body builder who looked dead nasty.

We were talking about the bombings and I tried to tell my wife to be careful, the Serbian body builder really looked a handful. I tried to be discreet and said to her, ‘Watch what you’re saying, SERB,’ discreetly pointing at the table next door.

She’s a good old Eastender and thought about what I had said for a nano second, before saying in a loud voice, ‘SERB, you mean Serbian.’

I live in such a multi-cultured society which is bound to have Libyans among them . I’m going to buy some sellotape on Monday.

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They haven't learnt from Iraq have they:blink: Wanna bet who will be the baddies next month. Libya will probably finish up with just another nutter in charge. Although Gaddafi is probably insane how do they know the rebels speak for the majority! They killed 31 in Yemen yesterday, will they be next:huh: Just when the UK scrapped the aircraft carrier!

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I for one hope that he doesn't get toppled, I am absolutely loving his mad ramblings....

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Well, the early assessment seems to be that the French have bombed a few Libyan tanks and the Yanks are firing off missiles from out at sea. I was a bit worried when they announced that the French were leading the European response.

My history isn’t great, but I can’t remember the French ever winning a war. It doesn’t bode well.

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Seems to be keeping his head down today, apart from some incomprehensible ramblings on a dodgy telephone line.

Now this guy could be next for the chop.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12796020

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The UK are bleating on about all the cuts in wages, jobs, public services. How tough these austerity measures are gonna hit everyone and yet they can scrape enough money together to fight a battle that they really dont know anything about and why? No doubt it will backfire on them, innocent people will be killed and maimed just as in Iraq and Afghanistan - Its like the UK is pretending to be a big powerful country and not the pathetic, failing country that it really is! I'm outraged! What the hell is Cameron thinking????

Jo xxx

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Much as Gadaffi is a nasty piece of work, I do wonder if Cameron and Sarkozy (the two big hawks on this issue) are doing this for purely humanitarian reasons. They won't be doing the same in Bahrein or Saudi, that's for sure. A cynic may feel that Sarkozy needs to regain votes prior to his election, and Dave too may need to build up electoral support as the economy tanks and the Lib Dems fall apart. If this goes well (ie Gadaffi is toppled soon and a decent democracy takes over) expect to see a UK general election by the Autumn.

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Jo, you’re probably talking for the majority of British people. Government policy is never to disclose the price of war, but common sense dictates it can’t be cheap.

But, what the f**k are we doing in Libya? I’ve just realised what the answer is - digging for oil.

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well i say godbless her magistys armed forces.

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So do I, but what is god and her majesty thinking of to allow this?

Jo xxx

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I seem to remember that the French army has won more than it has lost, but I'm damned if I can remember where I read it.

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Isn't it a list on the back of a postage stamp?

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Could this all be a computer game played by some nerds in a bunker in Florida? It can’t be real; Sky News are reporting British fighters making a 3,000 mile round trip to drop bombs, why didn’t they start off from Cyprus? Or Malta?

If it isn’t a computer game, then it’s target practice for a bigger event.

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Does anyone understand why we're doing this??? I know oil must be involved, I've heard that Lybian oil is the best as it doesnt need so much work to clean it up - but is this what its all about??? Are the west sending in "agitators" to cause all these unrests that are happening around the world? Are they simply hoping that the Lybians will rejoice at CGs (cant spell his name lol) demise (should it happen) and let us run their oil fields????? What????

Jo xxx

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I blame the Lizards....


(well I mean, FFS, get a grip people!)

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Read in different news sites this morning
The Spanish can't send their aircraft carrier because it's radar system has broken down.
The French one has malfunctioned
The British don't have one.
:rofl:

Can't see it being about oil. Think Libya only has about 3% of the worlds resources:confused: Europe has been getting it anyway, Gaddafi was "onside". Europe has been brown nosing Gaddafi for a few years!

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Never quite figured it out but there is that famous photo of Blair and Gaddafi snoggin´ must come into it somewhere.

Graham

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Here is one of Gaddafi's visit to Paris

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-fell-out.html

and his state visit to Spain

http://www.rexfeatures.com/set/720807

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So where does that leave Spain, France and most of Europe!

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Think the French aircraft carrier has spent more time out of service than in service. Is this the one we're going to share? Bodes well!
Europe, especially France and Spain do use quite a lot of Libyan oil. In fact we account for most of it. I've no doubt it is about oil, and whatever we think of dictators like him, we do have to ensure supplies from somewhere, without it we grind to a halt. It's like any business I imagine, you find yourself dealing with some very unpleasant characters, you might not like them, but if they have something you need, you have to grin and bear it. You just don't have to go overboard like that lameculos Blair! :)

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It surely can't be too much longer before President Sarkozy surrenders, and Colonel Gaddafi is marching triumphantly up the Champs Elysees.

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jo for you to understand you must first understand the new world order.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Gaddafi was voted President of the UN human rights commission in 2003. The vote was 33 to 3 in his favour....funny old world:D

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Afganistan must be heading for (or already is) one of the longest campaigns in history. Yet, it only took five years to defeat Nazi Germany and they were a much more effficient outfit.

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I think that there were a few more soldiers against the nazis. As to Afganistan it might help if we backed our troops with more than words. I do not think that we will ever win in Afganistan as we tend to respect war convensions Russia did not and they could not manage it.
As to Libya it is obviously about oil, any politician that ignores Rwanda can never ever spout on about human rights etc.

Graham.

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Alexander the great couldn't do it.
The British Raj couldn't do it.
The Russians couldn't do it.

Knowing that, only a moron would think they could swan into Afghanistan and conquer it.

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you dont have to win its a hands on training ground.yes its all about oil.but without oil.there would be no medicine.no plastics.no chemicals no food.no utilitys.comunications,transport the list is endless so dont knock what the armed forces are doing to preserve your way of life.show some support for our forces.

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It always makes me laugh when people whine and bitch about the "Oil Issue", yet they would be the first to whine and bitch about the rise in petrol and food prices the second we lose a reliable supply. f course its about oil, everything on the planet is, so what, if the net result is that people are saved from certain slaughter, as far as I can see its worth it!

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There is no oil in Afganhistan though, only poppies!

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Yes there is.

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I think it's all pie in the sky. It would have been drilled before if it was viable.

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afgan is for the oil and gas pipe lines.
the poppy for pain killing medicens

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You really are an absolute fool who is totally incapable of reading someone elses post coherently. It should be obvious to even the most argumentative prat that I was behind our troops but against the politicians.
Pleases reread my post and try to make an attempt at understanding if you are capable.


Graham

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Ah well. (No pun intended).

Graham