wall alteration
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wall alteration
My neighbour wants to raise the height of the wall between our properties.I have declined to consent to this alteration and he has advised that he will proceed anyway and will apply for planning permission.What can I do to prevent this alteration?
#3
Re: wall alteration
check the deeds of your property.
Often a boundary wall is either
a) 1 of them is your responsibility, e.g. the one on the left of the house, the other on the right hand side, the neighbours resonsibility, and so on, down the street.....or.......
b) You are 50% each liable for it, and therfore half owner of the wall.
Yes a visit to the town hall is in order
I agree with Jean paul sartre. "Hell is other people"
Often a boundary wall is either
a) 1 of them is your responsibility, e.g. the one on the left of the house, the other on the right hand side, the neighbours resonsibility, and so on, down the street.....or.......
b) You are 50% each liable for it, and therfore half owner of the wall.
Yes a visit to the town hall is in order
I agree with Jean paul sartre. "Hell is other people"
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Re: wall alteration
just one question,vance. is your neighbour spanish and if so, you are going to have a high wall.
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Re: wall alteration
I am not resident in Spain so a visit to the town hall is not possible at present.Is my permission required to allow an alteration of this type?No mention is made in the deeds regarding the wall.My neighbour is not Spanish.
#6
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The way it works here seems to be that the wall will get build and then you can fight to get it altered. Even if you win the argument, it could take years and even then he may not do it!
#7
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turning it on its head for a minute, would the higher wall spoil anything, like a view or whatever?
...and would a higher wall INCREASE your privacy?
sounds to me like you need it with neighbours like that
...and would a higher wall INCREASE your privacy?
sounds to me like you need it with neighbours like that
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Re: wall alteration
Vance - is your property within a legally-registered community and is there anything in the statutes or "internal rules" which limits the height of walls, appearance of walls etc ? If so, the president of your community (hope it's not your neighbour) should be prepared to contact your neighbour regarding this. In some cases, speaking from experience, this would be sufficient for your neighbour to change his plans. However, if your neighbour refuses to comply with the statutes/internal rules, there is s stong possibililty that at that point the president will back down.
#9
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As long as your neighbour obtains the correct licence for the alterations, there is, unfortunately, nothing you can do about it. Your neighbour will be responsible for rectifying any damage caused to the wall during the works etc and will forever be responsible for maintenance of the raised section.
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Re: wall alteration
Vance
As Triana said if your property is within a community your neighbour is breaching section 7 (1) of the Horizontal Property Act
As Triana said if your property is within a community your neighbour is breaching section 7 (1) of the Horizontal Property Act
(1) The owners of each unit may modify the architectural elements, installations or services of their flat or premises, giving prior notice to the commonhold representative provided such work does not diminish or alter the safety of the building, its general structure, its external image or configuration, or prejudice the rights of another proprietor
Last edited by jordan; Aug 20th 2009 at 6:12 pm.
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Re: wall alteration
If your neighbour wants to build a wall, and you disagree, you have a problem unlikely to be resolved by the authorities in Spain. I live in an area of ridiculously high walls, all built to keep out the burglars, and they work. The authorities know that the walls do not comply with local planning, but they're better than machine gun posts, the only other alternative.
And, to be honest, I enjoy the extra privacy they provide.
And, to be honest, I enjoy the extra privacy they provide.
#13
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I believe the only exception can be when a vote of all members is taken and not one single objection is put forward.
However if your case refers to private property as seems the case, then planning permission is needed.
This can be an expensive procedure and take some time, so in the event of materials appearing on site or work commencing, check IMMEDIATELY if permission has been given or even applied for, as quite possibly he may be bluffing to save himself time and money.
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Re: wall alteration
As already explained, under the hoizontal property law, external alterations on communidad property are generally not allowed and illegal.
I believe the only exception can be when a vote of all members is taken and not one single objection is put forward.
However if your case refers to private property as seems the case, then planning permission is needed.
This can be an expensive procedure and take some time, so in the event of materials appearing on site or work commencing, check IMMEDIATELY if permission has been given or even applied for, as quite possibly he may be bluffing to save himself time and money.
I believe the only exception can be when a vote of all members is taken and not one single objection is put forward.
However if your case refers to private property as seems the case, then planning permission is needed.
This can be an expensive procedure and take some time, so in the event of materials appearing on site or work commencing, check IMMEDIATELY if permission has been given or even applied for, as quite possibly he may be bluffing to save himself time and money.
#15
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I think he means he can't physically get there!
iirc the 'system' is much the same as in the UK - you apply for planning permission & the neighbours get a chance to object
but of course in Spain, everyone seems to ignore this, & half the time they don't apply for permission before they build the wall!
iirc the 'system' is much the same as in the UK - you apply for planning permission & the neighbours get a chance to object
but of course in Spain, everyone seems to ignore this, & half the time they don't apply for permission before they build the wall!