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Old Nov 4th 2009 | 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Hi sweetie.

The simple pasts are the most useful, ie the imperfect, perfect and the preterite.

To simplify, look at the verb to eat.

Imperfect. I used to eat at Joe's. (I did so habitually, but no longer eat there)

Perfect. I have eaten at Joe's. ( this may have been once, or several times, and I may well eat there in the future.)

Preterit. I ate at Joe's. (This refers to a single event in the past.)

The pret and perf can overlap just as you could say 'I ate at Joe's this morning', and it would signify exactly the same as saying 'I have eaten at Joe's this morning.'

What you couldn't say is 'I used to eat there this morning'.

See what I mean?

Progressive tenses are conjugated with estar. the progressive imperfect would be 'estaba comiendo....' I was eating when the bell rang. (Different from I was eating at Joe's lat week which would be the straightforward imperfect.)

Does that help?
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No wonder I can't get out of the present tense!
 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by JLFS
Holy S**t, I am confused and I am bloody Spanish..............
No you're not. You're an imposter, remember?!

 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 8:55 am
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I love Bil

He can tell me about his imperfectos all night if he wants to
 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
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Old Nov 4th 2009 | 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by lunacrout
Pheww - well that's a relief then


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Hell yes. There are lots more in the present, and of course the preterite has a special block of irregulars. These have some endings like AR verbs and the rest like ER/IR

AR go Hable, hablaste, hablo, hablamos, hablastais hablaron
ER/IR go Vivi, viviste, vivio, vivimos, vivisteis, vivieron.

The mixers are estuve, estuviste, estuvo, estuvimos, estuvisteis, estuvieron.

Mixers come in pairs and trios.

Conducir, decir and traer are all the same,
Andar, estar and tener
ser and ir
dir and ver
caber and saber
Haber and poder
Querrer and poner
dar and ver
 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 9:53 am
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Bil Tell me more about Querrer





















































Sorry, Querido, but I can`t help it. You know I love you really .......

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Originally Posted by Veleta
No you're not. You're an imposter, remember?!

Thank you for rminding me, I had forotten that fact,

Although after reading Bils posts, I am beginning to think that I am an imposter,

How are you doing?
 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 7:24 pm
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I use this online dictionary, it has a conjugator at the top, kill two birds with one stone.
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english
 
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Originally Posted by scampicat
?QUE?

No wonder I can't get out of the present tense!

Weeelll, I take your point. Viewed en masse it can be very daunting, but what I suggest is that you sit down and try and work out the patterns. Once they are learnt, the rest come easier.

Verbs are the scaffolding on which almost all sentances are constructed.

Stick to the regular trio, Hablar, vender and vivir, and take hablar first, as it is the simplest.

If you look, most simple tenses all have a stem, onto which the same endings go every time.

present ............. imperfect ............. conditional

hablo ............. hablaba ............. hablaria
habla s ............. hablaba s ............. hablaria s
habla ............. hablaba .......... hablaria
habla mos ............ hablaba mos ........... hablaria mos
habla is ............. hablaba is ............. hablaria is
habla n ............. hablaba n ............. hablaria n

see what I mean?

get one of those Spanish verbs 501, which give you the complete conjugation of all the verbs, and you can start to work out the patterns for yourself.

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Yeeesss.... it´s just that if you've followed enough of what's been said to you to give a proper reply, and attempt to speak at anything like a reasonable speed, and are struggling with prepositions, adverbs, adjectives and pronouns, (just ignoring nouns for a mo!) you (by which I mean I) tend to flounder when it comes to remembering which verbs are irregular and if so in which way
 
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Originally Posted by fionamw
Yeeesss.... it´s just that if you've followed enough of what's been said to you to give a proper reply, and attempt to speak at anything like a reasonable speed, and are struggling with prepositions, adverbs, adjectives and pronouns, (just ignoring nouns for a mo!) you (by which I mean I) tend to flounder when it comes to remembering which verbs are irregular and if so in which way
Then the answer is practise, practise and practise some more! Like the ad on the radio says, there's no miracle pill that you can take each morning to learn a new language. You've just got to study and practise at every opportunity and eventually, after a long hard slog you might get there!
 
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And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.
 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by agoreira
And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.
I know, both right of course but if you speak naturally quite quickly as I do, and also tend to go back & forth within the same conversation (same sentence, if I'm honest - look at my posts. I post as I speak) then trying to do that in a foreign language & retain some semblance of intelligence, well
 
Old Nov 4th 2009 | 9:51 pm
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Originally Posted by agoreira
And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.
Little by little..don't the locals say "poco a poco"?

Just be grateful you've got a fairly straightforward language to learn. You could be learning German!
 
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Originally Posted by agoreira
And it all fails, you always have the option of getting it wrong! It's not a crime, don't let it put you off trying. It would be great to be word perfect, but most of us lesser mortals are never going to be word perfect, but if you can hold a conversation with some locals, that's a good start. And with time, it'll improve, just don't give up.
This comment is one of the most sensible things that has been said on the subject.
There is nothing wrong with making mistakes, as long as you can be fairly well understood and understand, that is OK for most folk.
I understand that Spanish grammer is a pain, but English is also a sod of a language to learn.

There is no need to be too anal about it, you cannot enjoy conversing with people if you are always trying to be "perfect", its kind of like trying to hold your belly in all the time. It can be managed for a photo, or when a grand entrance is needed, but to do it all day long Stress, stress, stress.
 


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