Tips / service charge
#16
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Before the Euro was introduced, everyone happily tipped. But with the new coinage, all pricing was rounded up heavenwards. And with one blow, tipping came to an end. Most just leave the small change, with nothing more being expected.
Personally I don't like tipping. I prefer peeps are paid a decent living wage. Good service should not have to be rewarded with me having to pay more than the advertised price. I find the idea that service should ever be anything less than the best one can give, to be utterly bizarre. If a business provides all the advertised stuffs at the price agreed, then I shall return. Simple really.
Personally I don't like tipping. I prefer peeps are paid a decent living wage. Good service should not have to be rewarded with me having to pay more than the advertised price. I find the idea that service should ever be anything less than the best one can give, to be utterly bizarre. If a business provides all the advertised stuffs at the price agreed, then I shall return. Simple really.
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I always tip if I've had good service and I know that my tipping probably marks me out as a foreigner, but I think good service deserves paying for and the added benefit is you'll be guaranteed good service next time. It's an investment.
Only if I've had poor service do I not leave anything.
Only if I've had poor service do I not leave anything.
The lads who collect the basura.
The postie (assuming you get one)
The checkout person in the supermarket.
The bank clerk.
etc.
etc.
etc.
etc.
It is when you think about it, quite illogical & a pain that you have to think about if you are a tipper.
It is easy for us here now as we do not have to consider the issue & hust pay the bill for the service that we have recived & the locals where we live frown and mutter when tourists tip.
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I’ve always tipped, here in Spain and everywhere else. Perhaps I imagine it, but I’m always well-treated in the places I frequent, and my tapas portions are definitely bigger than those of the non-tippers, if I call a taxi one arrives in minutes, and my postman goes out of his way to deliver my mail.
My pool maintenance people keep it sparkling clean, my mechanic uses proper oil, and I’ve even had a few salutes from Trafico.
My pool maintenance people keep it sparkling clean, my mechanic uses proper oil, and I’ve even had a few salutes from Trafico.
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You tip Trafico
#21
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Yes, HGB, you do imagine it. I also receive all of those things mentioned....without tipping!
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I've even taken my bank manager to lunch. and my accountant, and my lawyer. I like to see people smile, and can't see any harm in not paying more tax than I have to.
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In Australia we hardly ever tip as restaurant/cafe staff are quite well paid. In the UK they are not so I would tip, if I thought the food and service deserved it. Here in Spain I have been leaving small tips occassionally.
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I think there is a class of people who delight in any excuse not to tip. In the UK often the staff are paid poorly (my daughter did a lot of waitressing when she was younger, so I have some first hand experience. ) Their money was so low that they really appreciated the tips they got.
We were told by our Spanish friends that 5% was the custom, but I do think that with everyone going short, I think people tip less.
I still do, as I get damn good service where I go, and it is a practical, real way of saying 'thank you.'
A lot of people can't even say that,, so why should we be surprised if people don't want to tip. Who knows, with luck they will be in a similar position one day, and that might just teach them some empathy.
As for those who are rude to staff, hmmm, these are people who handle my food out of my sight. Knowing what goes on in restaurants sometimes, I REALLY want them to like me.
We were told by our Spanish friends that 5% was the custom, but I do think that with everyone going short, I think people tip less.
I still do, as I get damn good service where I go, and it is a practical, real way of saying 'thank you.'
A lot of people can't even say that,, so why should we be surprised if people don't want to tip. Who knows, with luck they will be in a similar position one day, and that might just teach them some empathy.
As for those who are rude to staff, hmmm, these are people who handle my food out of my sight. Knowing what goes on in restaurants sometimes, I REALLY want them to like me.
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I think there is a class of people who delight in any excuse not to tip.
I still do, as I get damn good service where I go, and it is a practical, real way of saying 'thank you.'
A lot of people can't even say that,, so why should we be surprised if people don't want to tip. Who knows, with luck they will be in a similar position one day, and that might just teach them some empathy.
As for those who are rude to staff, hmmm, these are people who handle my food out of my sight. Knowing what goes on in restaurants sometimes, I REALLY want them to like me.
I still do, as I get damn good service where I go, and it is a practical, real way of saying 'thank you.'
A lot of people can't even say that,, so why should we be surprised if people don't want to tip. Who knows, with luck they will be in a similar position one day, and that might just teach them some empathy.
As for those who are rude to staff, hmmm, these are people who handle my food out of my sight. Knowing what goes on in restaurants sometimes, I REALLY want them to like me.
Class of people ? (mean spirited/tight/rude ???)
Cannot say thank you (see no tipper)
Yes I know that you are generalising, but I have done bar work & I do praise often "and" get good service without the need to "tip".
As has been said, bar staff etc are not the only workers to receive low wages, in fact half of the Spanish workers receive low wages IMO but you would never "tip" them I fancy.
Just bear in mind that you can tip heavily & "still" no be liked !
#27
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Ive always tipped 10% when having a meal. It does get costly though, especially if you have been out for a special meal for instance
On a recent visit to America I worked out I had tipped over €200, for if you dont do 15% you are looked at with disdain! They even have suggested tipping amounts printed on the bills!
On a recent visit to America I worked out I had tipped over €200, for if you dont do 15% you are looked at with disdain! They even have suggested tipping amounts printed on the bills!
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Ah yes, I do HATE being told what I should tip.
Generalising is absolutely fine, as is stereotyping. To say people have two legs is to generalise, and stereotypes are real. They wouldn't be stereotypes else....
A knob-end will always be one no matter how he tips, and a tightwad also is usually recogniseable.
Generalising is absolutely fine, as is stereotyping. To say people have two legs is to generalise, and stereotypes are real. They wouldn't be stereotypes else....
A knob-end will always be one no matter how he tips, and a tightwad also is usually recogniseable.
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I can only speak for myself & hate feeling obliged to "tip"
The last person I tipped was the grua driver who dropped us and our shopping off at home when he effectively had done his job by dropping the car at the garage.
As for tipping for a coffee