Rosemary

We are not back to the puppies thread again are we?

Graham

rugbymatt

No, he is talking about the thread that tells lies!

Rosemary

Well I understand from my OH that you are researching 'puppies' as a new academic thingy so when you refer to nipples I decided that this was part of your research.

Graham

rugbymatt

No, as much as I wish I could have a thread covering, or not as may be the case, nipples, it is in reference to Intuitive Nipple.

Fred James

I note that you have now accepted that you need to apply for a residents certificate after 3 months - you originally said it was 6 months.

As for the car - how many times do you need to be told - you have 6 months to re register your car in Spain after becoming resident. The 30 days applies to importation free of registration charges.

Is the information from the EU lawyers not good enough for you?

If not please quote the relevant Spanish law that says you only have 30 days to do so.

rugbymatt

you have some balls I will give you that.

jdr

You may bring into Spain your EU registered car without further formality but you may not use it in Spain for more than 6 months in a calendar year. If you spend more than 6 months in any year in Spain, you will be considered resident and consequently you must obtain full national plates and pay the special vehicle registration tax (impuesto municipal sobre circulación de vehículos).

You may also matriculate your foreign car on Spanish plates, you shall do it within 2 months from the time of entry. You should present all original documents as it is a complicated procedure.

The auto insurance you need is the coverage by your insurance company in your country of origin, extended to cover travel in Spain.
From http://www.spainlawyer.com/guialegal...ITULO=05010000

But the 6 months has just changed to 3 months with the new residencia certificate....
And the plate change time is now 30 days from time of entry instead of 2 months.



The Spanish Police were not interested in whether he lived in Spain or whether he was a tourist. The new law states that, if you are in Spain for longer than 6 months with your car, you are considered by law to be a Resident for the purposes of the Spanish Police Departmento Traffico. Or, should you actually move to live in Spain then you are now, due to a change in the law, liable to exchange your UK number plates with a Spanish MOT within 30 days of entry.
From http://www.expatfocus.com/your-car-i...n-spain-part-1

Both are in the sticky thread at the top of the page.

PS where did I say 6 months to become resident ?


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scampicat

So why was ours wrong three times? We have a Seat Alhambra (made in Barcelona!).

rugbymatt

there is always one!

scampicat

It failed because the Ficha Tecnica said 5/7 seats and the guy in the ITV station said it must say 7, not 5 or 7.
Because the tyres were the wrong size???????????? No other size will fit the wheels!
And because the steering wheel was on the wrong side! (Hey, it's a British car we have here, even if it is a Seat!).

Spanishliferules

Ok been there got tee shirt, cap, shorts, photos and memories. THIS IS THE LAW. If non - Resident, your uk car can stay in Spain for ever and live happily ever after. But these rules apply it must be,taxed and MOT'D, Insured in the country of Registration, this obviously means you have to take the car home once every year for a car over 3 yrs old. If resident you must under current Law (if anyone can be bothered including the police, re register your car within 6 mths and don't be told by any pretending advisers money thieving baxxxrds anything else.) Resident or not these apply (again you will be told this is not possible for non resident) You require Empadronamiente, IVT, (yes on foreign plates) V5 translation and conformity documentation issued by the ITV station(120euro) proof of house owner, some other tax to be paid in the office of traffic(19.euro), proof of road tax paid (11euro part year) a documentation to prove you paid a value of the car tax (ex import tax mine 300 euros) and something else I paid another 200 euros but it took that long I forgot, This was all with having a spanish amigo in presence and him having the car driving around on Spanish roads 365 day's a year on UK Plates (hang the basxxad Chop off his arms, Shoot him at dawn)

As for Insurance you can find that the policies wording is any 30 days at one time outside the uk ,not in one year. You can get all year policies as long you don't break residency Laws. (With ibex in Gibraltar.)

As to car impoundment and the warning given by others at the start of this thread. Please someone post on this site whom has been found in breach of the Laws what I have stated, I don't mean someone who knows someone, who Knows someone, who knows someone. Actual person please.

Reading some of the absolute rubbish written on these threads,there can't be any expats because they would all be locked up and deported.

The fact is we don't understand British Law ( especially on motoring offences)B4 starting to understand and scare people about Spanish Law.

Fred James

The 3 month rule has been in existence for many years and has not changed.

You have now introduced another confusion - 2 months to reregister your car.

EU law is quite clear - you have 6 months.

The UK embassy correctly points out that the 30 days applies to tax free importation.

That's my final word on the subject.

jdr

My final words too..

I only found the two months thing in the Spainlawyers site after checking out your quote "Is the information from the EU lawyers not good enough for you?"

The more you look the more confusing it gets..... ;-)

As I reside in Spain and drive a Spanish car, I am not really worried about illegal UK reg motors anyway, unless I am involved in an accident with one.

scampicat

Yes, I agree on a number of things.

It is certainly possible to get an ITV on a British-plated car. We did, it lasted for two years, (not expired yet), it is called something like a 'reversion voluntario'. This was before we did the matriculacion and was what a German expat told us we had to do.

You can get unlimited European insurance policies also.

And I personally don't know of ONE person who has had their car impounded for being on British plates, including someone who has been fined and 'pointed' for drink-driving.

And you're also right, we don't know the law, why should we when Spanish lawyers, gestors and police don't/won't? All we know for sure really is that if you are a resident and then you MUST import your car within six months.

But no-one does anything if you don't, certainly not in this area anyway.

keithwalters

Don´t know the ins and outs of the case, but a friend of the family got his UK plated car removed from the road by the Police and impounded.

That was on the Costa del Sol.