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Old May 30th 2012 | 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by rspltd
I cannot understand why you did not receive ESA provided of course 'while absent from Great Britain, the claimant continued to satisfy the other conditions of entitlement to that employment and support allowance'. Did you do that?

It might be more helpful if you explain why you think the UK is unsupportive - perhaps by saying how much you pay in to the country's coffers and how much they pay out to you (including items such as free prescriptions, free caring etc if applicable). That way someone might be able to suggest a country which does more .
Yes I informed them of such, even the change of my flight after cancer scare & the first med line my GP issued saying I was abroad for medical treatment DWP closed my claim ?. Still missing 6 months payments that is now going to Ombudsman aswell as the 100 week "assessment" period where DWP withheld and destroyed all medical evidence provided.

I paid in, its not like I've never worked and paid into the system, I worked my ass off at 16 onwards when no minimum wage existed to support myself, so much so my last job was £24,500 a year at 21 through sheer dedication, ironically giving me DLA mobility would have saved the state
over £115,000 over the last 10 years in national & local benefits & allowed me to work 16 hours a week over the tax credit year ! So backwards really...

I cant even get help when every winter I'm bedridden for 3-6 months so I need to escape the UK & start a new life where I'm not constantly battling to get better to then get ill again.


I'm sick of this illness & DWP life, I was a professional & I'm happy to work on a bar in a better climate just to move forward with it off benefits long term I'm not looking to get benefits long term anywhere, just support to get me started in a better climate = better health = work.

I had an offer to buy a property for under £30,000, but I need to show income for a mortgage - they will except Social Security payments but thats all in limbo with DWP and I have to wait upto 12 months for the Ombudsman investigation & ruling.

Thats 12 months with no entilement to DWP benefits as they are breaching the DWP legisaltion, I cant take FULL legal action either as that stops Ombudsman/ICE investigations - I have however tried to get legal aid to enforce ESA payments whilst not "assessed" as per the Tribunal findings.

I have been waiting 2 years so far to get my entilement to then leave UK & do my plan buying the property.

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Old May 30th 2012 | 12:22 pm
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Well you certainly know your way around the minefield that is disability benefit.
What is it with these tribunals and assesments etc, they don't believe that you are sick or what?
Sorry to hear about your debts, they are an additional strain on you. How/where do you currently live and who pays for your accommodation?
 
Old May 30th 2012 | 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by CostaDelScotland
Yes I informed them of such, even the change of my flight after cancer scare & the first med line my GP issued saying I was abroad for medical treatment DWP closed my claim ?. Still missing 6 months payments that is now going to Ombudsman aswell as the 100 week "assessment" period where DWP withheld and destroyed all medical evidence provided.

I paid in, its not like I've never worked and paid into the system, I worked my ass off at 16 onwards when no minimum wage existed to support myself, so much so my last job was £24,500 a year at 21 through sheer dedication, ironically giving me DLA mobility would have saved the state
over £115,000 over the last 10 years in national & local benefits & allowed me to work 16 hours a week over the tax credit year ! So backwards really...

I cant even get help when every winter I'm bedridden for 3-6 months so I need to escape the UK & start a new life where I'm not constantly battling to get better to then get ill again.


I'm sick of this illness & DWP life, I was a professional & I'm happy to work on a bar in a better climate just to move forward with it off benefits long term I'm not looking to get benefits long term anywhere, just support to get me started in a better climate = better health = work.

I had an offer to buy a property for under £30,000, but I need to show income for a mortgage - they will except Social Security payments but that's all in limbo with DWP and I have to wait upto 12 months for the Ombudsman investigation & ruling.

Thats 12 months with no entilement to DWP benefits as they are breaching the DWP legisaltion, I cant take FULL legal action either as that stops Ombudsman/ICE investigations - I have however tried to get legal aid to enforce ESA payments whilst not "assessed" as per the Tribunal findings.

I have been waiting 2 years so far to get my entilement to then leave UK & do my plan buying the property.
I'm somewhat puzzled, If you have been on benefits for so long and are unable to work and you say you have debts, then how on earth do you plan to finance your life here "in the sun"?

There are no benefits here, there is no work either...though if you are indeed as bad as you say then work would be out of the question!
If you think the UK is unsupportive then you are in for a huge shock if you move to Spain....they don't even support their own let alone do that for a guiri.
 
Old May 30th 2012 | 3:58 pm
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I really do not understand how if you are bed ridden for 3-6 months in Scotland your health would improve and you would be able to work due to the climate in Spain.
I do not wish to be unkind, but .... even in Scotland I believe they have central heating.
 
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Originally Posted by CostaDelScotland
Hey guys, newbie here, go easy on me

I have been in receipt of Incapacity Benefit from approx 2004 until 2009 when I was put on Employment & Support Allowance, during this time I have had my National Insurance Contributions paid by DWP.

ESA claimed upto 5/4/12.

Has anyone any experience of either temp/perm disability pension being assessed where Spain takes into consideration the UK contributions as a EU country to qualify for the Disability Pension ?

The weather here is killing me for last 10 years & I need to relocate, at 35 and ten years ill health I need to escape the adverse effect the climate in UK has on my medical conditions.

Thanks in advance all
I think you and newlight1 should get together
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759636
 
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Originally Posted by pwwm
Indeed sadly you are right, so much more support in UK than any oher country I can think of
which is why so many people come for a "holiday" and suddenly get ill

 
Old May 31st 2012 | 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by CostaDelScotland

Does anyone have experience of other "med" countries other than Spain ? I'm open to suggestion, I need to get out of this unsupporting country to a warmer climate to support myself.

Cheers all
You have been spoilt! I cant think of any other country where you will get the same level of welfare as you do in the UK

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Originally Posted by stuboy
What is it with these tribunals and assesments etc, they don't believe that you are sick or what?
Unfortunately these tribunals/assessments etc are a necessary evil, there are always loads of people swinging the lead. There are always cases featured in the papers, people that can't walk etc caught out running, playing golf etc. Not saying this is the case of our OP, but there are always people trying
it on. I've said before a very good friend of mine is disabled with MD and he gets all sorts of help, never any problem, he seemingly wants for nothing, so not sure why the OP is having problems. Perhaps he'll pop back and tell us when he finds a country to take him that will look after him better than UK.
 
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Its also a bit of a "catch 22". According to the OP, living in a warmer climate means he will no longer be classed as disabled so he wont receive any benefits. But there is no work in Spain - or any unemployment benefits

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Originally Posted by billymacker
I think you and newlight1 should get together
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759636
I was wondering if they already had
 
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Its also a bit of a "catch 22". According to the OP, living in a warmer climate means he will no longer be classed as disabled so he wont receive any benefits. But there is no work in Spain - or any unemployment benefits

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Crazy Spain is ok to live if you have a private income or have a good salary.
Stay put you will have a sad life in Espana

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Originally Posted by Domino
thats alright - the UK gravy train will cover everything
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But that only works if you never paid into the central fund in the first place!

If you've worked and paid your own way for forty or fifty years and been self supportive you end up getting nothing... but are still paying taxes for the other lot!
 
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The only financial support you will get in Spain is what the UK will give you, there are NO benefits you can claim in Spain.

The simple fact is you cannot afford to live in Spain, it just won't happen.

I would talk to your GP about how you are feeling, perhaps a chat with a mental health outreach team could help you with your depression and anger issues.
 
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Originally Posted by megmet
But that only works if you never paid into the central fund in the first place!

If you've worked and paid your own way for forty or fifty years and been self supportive you end up getting nothing... but are still paying taxes for the other lot!
How true the people I have known that have never contributed are better off than me .
Whom i might add have worked since I was 15.
They have rent paid, free dental service, free glasses.
Dont pay rates.claim disability!!!!!!!!!!
And are given a living allowance as well.
I know for a fact that they have worked 2 or 3 jobs at a time, declaring none and earning more than myself.
Now also have a pension.???????
Whereas I get no handouts from anywhere.I have to live on my savings
because I have worked legally. It does not make sence???????????
All should come to UK for easy living HEHE
 


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