Temp/Permanent Disability Pension
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I cannot understand why you did not receive ESA provided of course 'while absent from Great Britain, the claimant continued to satisfy the other conditions of entitlement to that employment and support allowance'. Did you do that?
It might be more helpful if you explain why you think the UK is unsupportive - perhaps by saying how much you pay in to the country's coffers and how much they pay out to you (including items such as free prescriptions, free caring etc if applicable). That way someone might be able to suggest a country which does more .
It might be more helpful if you explain why you think the UK is unsupportive - perhaps by saying how much you pay in to the country's coffers and how much they pay out to you (including items such as free prescriptions, free caring etc if applicable). That way someone might be able to suggest a country which does more .
I paid in, its not like I've never worked and paid into the system, I worked my ass off at 16 onwards when no minimum wage existed to support myself, so much so my last job was £24,500 a year at 21 through sheer dedication, ironically giving me DLA mobility would have saved the state
over £115,000 over the last 10 years in national & local benefits & allowed me to work 16 hours a week over the tax credit year ! So backwards really...
I cant even get help when every winter I'm bedridden for 3-6 months so I need to escape the UK & start a new life where I'm not constantly battling to get better to then get ill again.
I'm sick of this illness & DWP life, I was a professional & I'm happy to work on a bar in a better climate just to move forward with it off benefits long term
I'm not looking to get benefits long term anywhere, just support to get me started in a better climate = better health = work.I had an offer to buy a property for under £30,000, but I need to show income for a mortgage - they will except Social Security payments but thats all in limbo with DWP and I have to wait upto 12 months for the Ombudsman investigation & ruling.
Thats 12 months with no entilement to DWP benefits as they are breaching the DWP legisaltion, I cant take FULL legal action either as that stops Ombudsman/ICE investigations - I have however tried to get legal aid to enforce ESA payments whilst not "assessed" as per the Tribunal findings.
I have been waiting 2 years so far to get my entilement to then leave UK & do my plan buying the property.
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Well you certainly know your way around the minefield that is disability benefit.
What is it with these tribunals and assesments etc, they don't believe that you are sick or what?
Sorry to hear about your debts, they are an additional strain on you. How/where do you currently live and who pays for your accommodation?
What is it with these tribunals and assesments etc, they don't believe that you are sick or what?
Sorry to hear about your debts, they are an additional strain on you. How/where do you currently live and who pays for your accommodation?
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Yes I informed them of such, even the change of my flight after cancer scare & the first med line my GP issued saying I was abroad for medical treatment DWP closed my claim ?. Still missing 6 months payments that is now going to Ombudsman aswell as the 100 week "assessment" period where DWP withheld and destroyed all medical evidence provided.
I paid in, its not like I've never worked and paid into the system, I worked my ass off at 16 onwards when no minimum wage existed to support myself, so much so my last job was £24,500 a year at 21 through sheer dedication, ironically giving me DLA mobility would have saved the state
over £115,000 over the last 10 years in national & local benefits & allowed me to work 16 hours a week over the tax credit year ! So backwards really...
I cant even get help when every winter I'm bedridden for 3-6 months so I need to escape the UK & start a new life where I'm not constantly battling to get better to then get ill again.
I'm sick of this illness & DWP life, I was a professional & I'm happy to work on a bar in a better climate just to move forward with it off benefits long term
I'm not looking to get benefits long term anywhere, just support to get me started in a better climate = better health = work.
I had an offer to buy a property for under £30,000, but I need to show income for a mortgage - they will except Social Security payments but that's all in limbo with DWP and I have to wait upto 12 months for the Ombudsman investigation & ruling.
Thats 12 months with no entilement to DWP benefits as they are breaching the DWP legisaltion, I cant take FULL legal action either as that stops Ombudsman/ICE investigations - I have however tried to get legal aid to enforce ESA payments whilst not "assessed" as per the Tribunal findings.
I have been waiting 2 years so far to get my entilement to then leave UK & do my plan buying the property.
I paid in, its not like I've never worked and paid into the system, I worked my ass off at 16 onwards when no minimum wage existed to support myself, so much so my last job was £24,500 a year at 21 through sheer dedication, ironically giving me DLA mobility would have saved the state
over £115,000 over the last 10 years in national & local benefits & allowed me to work 16 hours a week over the tax credit year ! So backwards really...
I cant even get help when every winter I'm bedridden for 3-6 months so I need to escape the UK & start a new life where I'm not constantly battling to get better to then get ill again.
I'm sick of this illness & DWP life, I was a professional & I'm happy to work on a bar in a better climate just to move forward with it off benefits long term
I'm not looking to get benefits long term anywhere, just support to get me started in a better climate = better health = work.I had an offer to buy a property for under £30,000, but I need to show income for a mortgage - they will except Social Security payments but that's all in limbo with DWP and I have to wait upto 12 months for the Ombudsman investigation & ruling.
Thats 12 months with no entilement to DWP benefits as they are breaching the DWP legisaltion, I cant take FULL legal action either as that stops Ombudsman/ICE investigations - I have however tried to get legal aid to enforce ESA payments whilst not "assessed" as per the Tribunal findings.
I have been waiting 2 years so far to get my entilement to then leave UK & do my plan buying the property.
There are no benefits here, there is no work either...though if you are indeed as bad as you say then work would be out of the question!
If you think the UK is unsupportive then you are in for a huge shock if you move to Spain....they don't even support their own let alone do that for a guiri.
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I really do not understand how if you are bed ridden for 3-6 months in Scotland your health would improve and you would be able to work due to the climate in Spain.
I do not wish to be unkind, but .... even in Scotland I believe they have central heating.
I do not wish to be unkind, but .... even in Scotland I believe they have central heating.
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Hey guys, newbie here, go easy on me 
I have been in receipt of Incapacity Benefit from approx 2004 until 2009 when I was put on Employment & Support Allowance, during this time I have had my National Insurance Contributions paid by DWP.
ESA claimed upto 5/4/12.
Has anyone any experience of either temp/perm disability pension being assessed where Spain takes into consideration the UK contributions as a EU country to qualify for the Disability Pension ?
The weather here is killing me for last 10 years & I need to relocate, at 35 and ten years ill health I need to escape the adverse effect the climate in UK has on my medical conditions.
Thanks in advance all

I have been in receipt of Incapacity Benefit from approx 2004 until 2009 when I was put on Employment & Support Allowance, during this time I have had my National Insurance Contributions paid by DWP.
ESA claimed upto 5/4/12.
Has anyone any experience of either temp/perm disability pension being assessed where Spain takes into consideration the UK contributions as a EU country to qualify for the Disability Pension ?
The weather here is killing me for last 10 years & I need to relocate, at 35 and ten years ill health I need to escape the adverse effect the climate in UK has on my medical conditions.
Thanks in advance all

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=759636
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it on. I've said before a very good friend of mine is disabled with MD and he gets all sorts of help, never any problem, he seemingly wants for nothing, so not sure why the OP is having problems. Perhaps he'll pop back and tell us when he finds a country to take him that will look after him better than UK.
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Its also a bit of a "catch 22". According to the OP, living in a warmer climate means he will no longer be classed as disabled so he wont receive any benefits. But there is no work in Spain - or any unemployment benefits
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I think you and newlight1 should get together
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benefits from cradle to grave
#27
Crazy
Spain is ok to live if you have a private income or have a good salary.
Stay put you will have a sad life in Espana
Spain is ok to live if you have a private income or have a good salary. Stay put you will have a sad life in Espana
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#28
If you've worked and paid your own way for forty or fifty years and been self supportive you end up getting nothing... but are still paying taxes for the other lot!
#29
The only financial support you will get in Spain is what the UK will give you, there are NO benefits you can claim in Spain.
The simple fact is you cannot afford to live in Spain, it just won't happen.
I would talk to your GP about how you are feeling, perhaps a chat with a mental health outreach team could help you with your depression and anger issues.
The simple fact is you cannot afford to live in Spain, it just won't happen.
I would talk to your GP about how you are feeling, perhaps a chat with a mental health outreach team could help you with your depression and anger issues.
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Whom i might add have worked since I was 15.
They have rent paid, free dental service, free glasses.
Dont pay rates.claim disability!!!!!!!!!!
And are given a living allowance as well.
I know for a fact that they have worked 2 or 3 jobs at a time, declaring none and earning more than myself.
Now also have a pension.???????
Whereas I get no handouts from anywhere.I have to live on my savings
because I have worked legally. It does not make sence???????????
All should come to UK for easy living HEHE




