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sumjoshbrooks Sep 8th 2008 11:26 pm

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Off Again!!!! Any news out there? Do you think they have finally gone bust? Is there any hope on the horizon? Or are we fated to watch crap dvd's for another 5 weeks?

gardner8 Sep 9th 2008 12:13 am

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Statement issued today by Sol productions that they (Telmicro) will officially launch next Tuesday 16th.

tallbob Sep 9th 2008 2:24 am

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According to a La Marina website
officers from the Guardia Civil were on the roof of the office in La Marina
this morning ( 10th September 2008 ) removing the aerials and dishes
my partners villa is les than 2 minutes walk from their office so when we are there from Friday we will be able to see the truth or otherwise

Checkitfirst Sep 9th 2008 3:59 am

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The Telmicro statement on the Sol Productions website hints at ongoing problems at the La Marina site, without actually saying what they are. They seem to have been pretty much up front with everything so far, so I am happy to wait it out for the time being.

jurdyr Sep 9th 2008 4:25 am

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there where raided again and becareful that try to take money out mates bank account early last week but he told bank to stop all payments to them
Quote from uk forum
Well I'm glad to see those gangsters have finally got their comeuppance!!
only guys that are using it as a front to lunder money"

that not frist time i hear that ..... make you think the plumper water down the h2o coming in two you house :rofl:

twyntub Sep 9th 2008 4:30 am

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There could be a perfectly logical and plausible reason behind the equipment being taken away. Perhaps it was needed to build a Large Hadron Collider...

Now, where did I put that packet of superconducting magnets? :rofl:

The Guy Sep 9th 2008 5:03 am

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i think they are taking the equipment away as they need the spare parts for the "BIG BANG" experiment in switzerland....you know the one where if it goes worng no tv will be the least of your worries....:eek:

The Guy Sep 9th 2008 6:27 am

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i was asked this question earlier to day and this is my reply - thought it may be good for here also...


"Please excuse my ignorance - but is freeview the same as freesat?"

no

"freeview" is the brand name of a UK Digital TV service ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE UK. it is available via tv aerials on the houses, and is only transmitted from TV transmitters in the UK. freeview is not availale in spain. freeview channels are http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/terrestrial/epg/ or see http://www.freeview.co.uk/home
note there are channels on freeview that you have to pay for on freesat!

spain has its own version of "freeview" called TDT - see tdt.es - 30ish digital spanish tv channels via a TV aerial...many programmes you can change the programmes into their original audio...not always english as a few german programmes have cropped up...

you have "Freesat" receivers - they only have about 100 channels on their EPG at the moment. they receive "free to air" channels. Freesat receivers will have the Freesat logo on them.
Freesat Channel List
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/satellite/freesatepg/

you have sky receivers and a £20 "freesatfromsky" card, - many more channels than Freesat. they receive "free to air" channels and Five, Five US and Fiver, Sky Three, Setanta Sports News ("known as "free to view" channels)
Freesat From Sky CHannel List
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/satellit...satfromskyepg/

If you have a sky receivers and want to pay monthly used for Free to air, free to veiw and subscription channels...
Sky CHannel List
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/satellite/skyepg/

Note that many installers are using generic receivers (sometimes called Free To Air receivers) and calling them freesat receivers which may be confusing people.
official freesat and sky receivers have a full 7 day programme guide...generic FTA receivers only have now and next programme infomation. G

eneric FTA receivers will get all channels in the second link - apart from Five, Five US and Fiver, Sky Three, Setanta Sports News.

note that reception of channels depends on your location and dish size

slimalf Sep 12th 2008 4:42 am

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The news on Telmicro is becoming more ominous. A freebie newspaper has suggested that they are (Telmicro) not being very truthful. Shall wait with bated breath for the 'big bang' promised for next Tuesday then on to pastures new. No idea what that will be!

Lack of space and initial expense certainly rules out one of those huge dishes.
Anyway, no one can describe them as a thing of beauty and I don't really think that one would enhance my tiny garden,or worse, the roof!!!

So, what else is there? Ah, yes, re-broadcasting. I thoroughly enjoyed the service that Telmicro provided, in spite of the occasional wobbly and so I shall probably risk my all down that road again. However, where are all the rebroadcasters hiding? One of the posts tells us there are plenty about. Wish I could find one:confused:

jurdyr Sep 12th 2008 5:23 am

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Originally Posted by slimalf (Post 6777038)
The news on Telmicro is becoming more ominous. A freebie newspaper has suggested that they are (Telmicro) not being very truthful. Shall wait with bated breath for the 'big bang' promised for next Tuesday then on to pastures new. No idea what that will be!

Lack of space and initial expense certainly rules out one of those huge dishes.
Anyway, no one can describe them as a thing of beauty and I don't really think that one would enhance my tiny garden,or worse, the roof!!!

So, what else is there? Ah, yes, re-broadcasting. I thoroughly enjoyed the service that Telmicro provided, in spite of the occasional wobbly and so I shall probably risk my all down that road again. However, where are all the rebroadcasters hiding? One of the posts tells us there are plenty about. Wish I could find one:confused:

and the free papers is ?

i have see in few forums that it was a front for some think eles ....

bbc / itv /ch4 /ch5 / sky networks / rte networks have sayed that did not get any money for this company for rebrodcasting there channels as cable company pay very hight commercial rate ,

tele mirco also opprate a radio station on the coast Sunshine FM if i right

Again mate off my say that try to take cash out his account in mid aug , but had stop the DD

The Guy Sep 14th 2008 8:00 am

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wonder if this is how the authorities were with TM...

NOTE : VERY STRONG LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=w9N6f8mpDC0

jdr Sep 14th 2008 8:38 am

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Originally Posted by Satandpcguy (Post 6783222)
wonder if this is how the authorities were with TM...

NOTE : VERY STRONG LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=w9N6f8mpDC0

LOL.

Dick Dasterdly Sep 14th 2008 9:16 am

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Originally Posted by Satandpcguy (Post 6783222)
wonder if this is how the authorities were with TM...

NOTE : VERY STRONG LANGUAGE THROUGHOUT

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=w9N6f8mpDC0


Those Trailer Park Boys are something else,not seen them for a while,but I think there may be a more recent series not been shown yet on Sky.

Thanks for the info satman,my dish is a 1.6 by 1.8 offset type up here.
Picked it up for a few euro at a car boot in Benidorm and drove all the way to central Sweden with it tied on the car roof.Got a few funny looks on the way, but no great problem.
Also have a Philips box I bought of a Dutch guy in Beni about 7 year back.
It was 60euro incl a dish and still works great, both here and in Spain.
Watched the F1 Motor race today on it.
Hundreds of channels from most of Europe and N.Africa.
I think its set on the other Astra at 19 or so degrees E.
Very easy to set it up and certainly had my moneys worth out of it.:thumbsup:

jurdyr Sep 14th 2008 11:04 am

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i know some where i had this chart off what side dishes for Spain

goodison Sep 14th 2008 8:16 pm

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Can anyone help me out there? The Spanish TV channels that show live English football, where do I find their listings to know what games are going to be shown on a weekly basis?

jurdyr Sep 14th 2008 8:42 pm

Re: Telmicro Levante
 

Originally Posted by goodison (Post 6784392)
Can anyone help me out there? The Spanish TV channels that show live English football, where do I find their listings to know what games are going to be shown on a weekly basis?

go to there website for listting on football

tve.es are digialplus.es
jurdy

The Guy Sep 15th 2008 1:50 am

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or

http://liveonsat.com/today.php

for a day by day update...

Dick Dasterdly Sep 15th 2008 5:21 am

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Originally Posted by jurdyr (Post 6783596)
i know some where i had this chart off what side dishes for Spain

Ive seen quite a few of these charts relating to coverage and signal strength from transponders but can never quite comprehend the anomalies that occur within the footprint.
A weak area can appear to be surrounded by stronger areas and is obviously affected by factors other than distance from the satellite and the size of coverage of the footprint.
Any theories satman?
If so, maybe best on the other sat thread,(dont want to upset the boss),;)
Many Thanks for the other info.

jurdyr Sep 15th 2008 6:35 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 6785936)
Ive seen quite a few of these charts relating to coverage and signal strength from transponders but can never quite comprehend the anomalies that occur within the footprint.
A weak area can appear to be surrounded by stronger areas and is obviously affected by factors other than distance from the satellite and the size of coverage of the footprint.
Any theories satman?
If so, maybe best on the other sat thread,(dont want to upset the boss),;)
Many Thanks for the other info.

chart is there and you can get way with 1.8 meter dish but when there bad weather please , DONT COME NEED ME 2.4 METERS what you should have but with weather not been that bad here 2meter would be ok

it got so bad in ireland and the uk that the dish size with downpoors the been braken up

was looking at web cam off a pub and saw parasol over the slydish
was some think i had say to this guy to do and he did it that in uk

photo will be sortly posted (waitting on i phone to work )

The Guy Sep 15th 2008 7:38 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 6785936)
Ive seen quite a few of these charts relating to coverage and signal strength from transponders but can never quite comprehend the anomalies that occur within the footprint.
A weak area can appear to be surrounded by stronger areas and is obviously affected by factors other than distance from the satellite and the size of coverage of the footprint.
Any theories satman?
If so, maybe best on the other sat thread,(dont want to upset the boss),;)
Many Thanks for the other info.

the bit that has got sat enthusiats talking is how come the signals for 2d is a bit better near gibralter.....???
how did they get a beam that is mean to be uniform stronger down there...

general consencus was that it is a fault with the satellite!!!!

it can also be affected by signals from other satellites - the ones at 26 degrees can interfere with the ones from 28.5....

mikelincs Sep 17th 2008 3:39 am

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So.. did Telmicro come back yesterday as they promised?... or are you lot still wihout the goggle box?

CBANDY Sep 17th 2008 3:40 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 6792966)
So.. did Telmicro come back yesterday as they promised?... or are you lot still wihout the goggle box?

Still no update.

www.telmicro.es

Think we have seen the last of them;)

jdr Sep 17th 2008 4:35 am

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It would take a magician to repair the kit after it had been dismatled by the Guardia. ;-))

jurdyr Sep 17th 2008 5:05 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 6793235)
It would take a magician to repair the kit after it had been dismatled by the Guardia. ;-))

NO


that why there Engineers to fix things


game up we all know it now

slimalf Sep 18th 2008 4:09 am

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Sorry, guys. I am not a football fan, but I do enjoy cricket which Telmicro was providing me with. But that appears to over. No more cricket from England.
However, the game is being played around the world in India, S.Africa, Pakistan etc and I am sure that they use satellites to broadcast the game.

So, thinking caps on,chaps. Is it possible for me to receive some of their stuff? :huh:

mikelincs Sep 18th 2008 5:26 am

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Originally Posted by slimalf (Post 6797003)
Sorry, guys. I am not a football fan, but I do enjoy cricket which Telmicro was providing me with. But that appears to over. No more cricket from England.
However, the game is being played around the world in India, S.Africa, Pakistan etc and I am sure that they use satellites to broadcast the game.

So, thinking caps on,chaps. Is it possible for me to receive some of their stuff? :huh:

Doubt that the Spanish channels would show the games, so you are left with SKY.

big wheels Sep 18th 2008 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 6797293)
Doubt that the Spanish channels would show the games, so you are left with SKY.

There is a lot more than SKY out there. :) There are FREE channels on OTHER satellites that do show cricket from time to time.

slimalf Sep 23rd 2008 3:09 am

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 6797344)
There is a lot more than SKY out there. :) There are FREE channels on OTHER satellites that do show cricket from time to time.

Thanks for your reply. Would you happen to know which satellites and where to find them? :confused:

big wheels Sep 23rd 2008 3:29 am

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For a start you can try 26e http://www.lyngsat.com/badr.html
Including.
Abu Dhabi sports channel
MBC channels
Al Jazeera sports channel
Dubai sport channel (Also on Hotbird @ 13e)

Some channels on Nilesat @7w have also been known to show cricket
http://www.lyngsat.com/nile.html

Plus of course the raw unencrypted feeds are sometimes available with a bit of searching and luck. :)

The Guy Sep 24th 2008 2:40 am

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TM : tax evasion and fraud of pay tv channels...
http://www.guardiacivil.com/index.jsp

and more info....

Información.es » Sucesos
provincia de alicante
Desmantelan una red de pirateo de canales de televisión que ha defraudado 500 millones de euros

13:58
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Los 14 detenidos habrían defraudado más de 500 millones de euros y tenían más de 60.000 clientes, que pagaban hasta 22 euros al mes.

EUROPA PRESS La Guardia Civil ha desarticulado una red internacional dedicada a emitir canales privados de televisión, sin disponer los derechos para ello, a clientes de origen británico con domicilio en Alicante, Murcia y Almería. La operación se ha saldado con 14 detenidos que habrían defraudado más de 500 millones de euros a las plataformas de televisión y a la Hacienda Pública.

La organización, integrada por ocho españoles, tres británicos, un bielorruso, un rumano y un ruso, captaba la señal de canales británicos y los emitían en la costa levantina para clientes procedentes de Reino Unido, sin pagar los derechos correspondientes y sin declarar los beneficios.

Según los investigadores, los estafadores disponían de tres empresas con cobertura legal, a través de las que operaban de forma encubierta. Declaraban un número muy inferior de suscriptores a los que realmente tenía --60.000 personas-- y después distribuían ilegalmente la señal en territorio español.

La operación, denominada 'Cimitarra', se inició a raíz de la denuncia presentada por un representante legal de Sogecable, tras detectar que determinadas emisiones de canales británicos en Alicante incluían contenidos cuya titularidad de los derechos audiovisuales en España correspondía a dicha plataforma digital.

A continuación, las pesquisas revelaron que la organización disponía de una nave situada en un polígono industrial del municipio alicantino de Algorfa, que albergaba potentes antenas parabólicas y decodificadores, contratados en Reino Unido e Irlanda.

Estos medios técnicos permitían captar la señal de varias cadenas británicas de televisión por satélite. Así, los sospechosos descodificaban y volvían a codificar las cadenas utilizando un sistema denominado IRDETO, para posteriormente distribuirla a sus clientes de toda la costa, desde Benidorm hasta la localidad almeriense de Vera, a través de una red de emisores y repetidores propios.

Los agentes han realizado 22 registros, en los que se han incautado equipos informáticos, material técnico de recepción y emisión de televisión, decodificadores, mezcladores y dinero en metálico por valor de más de cinco millones de euros.

MÁS DE 60.000 CLIENTES

La trama disponía de más de 60.000 clientes, en su mayoría miembros de la comunidad británica afincados en la costa levantina, que pagaban 590 euros por gastos de instalación, más las cuotas mensuales de entre 18 y 22 euros o bien cuotas anuales de entre 200 y 220 euros, dependiendo de los canales contratados.

La instalación en el domicilio de los clientes consistía en una antena específica para las frecuencias de emisión utilizadas y un aparato decodificador que únicamente funcionaba con una tarjeta con numeración única para cada cliente, lo cual hacía posible cortar la señal en caso de falta de pago.

Algunos canales de televisión habían dado autorización para facilitar la señal a un número limitado de clientes, cobrando los derechos correspondientes, pero la red incumplía este compromiso ya que el número real de clientes era muy superior al realmente declarado por la organización.

Del mismo modo, defraudaban a la Hacienda Pública, ya que declaraban las ganancias correspondientes a sólo unos 17.000 clientes. Las investigaciones han sido llevadas a cabo por el Equipo de Policía Judicial de la Guardia Civil de Torrevieja (Alicante).
Información.es »Events
Alicante province
Dismantled a network of piracy of TV channels that has defrauded 500 million euros

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The 14 detainees have defrauded more than 500 million and had over 60,000 customers, who paid up to 22 euros per month.

EUROPA PRESS The Civil Guard has dismantled an international network dedicated to deliver private television channels, without the rights to do so, customers of British origin residing in Alicante, Murcia and Almeria. The operation has resulted in 14 detainees who allegedly defrauded more than 500 million euros for the TV platforms and Public Finance.

The organization, comprised of eight Spaniards, three British, one Belarussian, a Romanian and a Russian, captured the British-channel signal and broadcast in the Levantine coast for clients from UK, without paying the corresponding rights and benefits without declaring .

According to investigators, fraudsters have three companies with legal cover, through which operating covertly. Reported a much smaller number of subscribers to those who actually had - 60,000 people - and then illegally distribute the signal in Spanish territory.

The operation, called 'Scimitar', was launched following a complaint filed by a legal representative of Sogecable, after detecting that some of Britain's emissions in Alicante whose contents included ownership of TV rights in Spain correspond to the digital platform.

Then, the investigation revealed that the organization had a house located in an industrial estate in the municipality of Algorfa Alicante, which housed powerful satellite dishes and decoders, hired in the United Kingdom and Ireland.

These technical means allowing capture the signal of several British television channels via satellite. Thus, the suspects returned to decode and encode channels using a system called Irdeto, and then distribute it to their customers across the coast from Benidorm to the Andalusian village of Vera, through a network of transmitters and repeaters themselves.

The agents have conducted 22 searches, which have seized computers, technical equipment for the reception and broadcast television decoders, mixers and cash worth over five million euros.

MORE THAN 60,000 CUSTOMERS

The plot had more than 60,000 customers, mostly members of the British community established in the Levantine coast, which paid 590 euros per installation costs, plus monthly premiums of between 18 and 22 euros, or annual fees of between 200 and 220 euros, depending on the channels hired.

The installation in the homes of customers consisted of an antenna-specific emission frequencies used and a decoder that only worked appliance with a card with numbers unique to each customer, which made it possible to cut the signal in case of nonpayment.

Some TV channels had given authorization to provide the signal to a limited number of customers, gaining the rights concerned, but the network breached this commitment and that the actual number of customers was much higher than actually declared by the organization.

Similarly, to defraud the Treasury, as reported profits for only about 17,000 customers. The investigations have been carried out by the Team of the Judicial Police of the Guardia Civil of Torrevieja (Alicante)

twyntub Sep 24th 2008 3:15 am

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So, does that mean people will finally realise that rebroadcasting is not entirely legit, or are they going to carry on 'waiting and seeing whilst telmicro make further calibration to their equipment'??

Interesting twist on the tax evasion though, aside from sounding very 'Al Capone'. Not only did they forget to declare the profits for 72% of their customer base, they also forgot to declare those customers to the (few?) legit channels they were rebroadcasting under licence. Double bubble! :eek:

I still think it's a great business model, though. Get 60,000 customers to pay 20 euro a month (1.2 million / month). Total cost? One sky subscription! If you ever fancy going into business, Satandpc... :lol: :thumbup:

jurdyr Sep 24th 2008 5:59 am

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Not only did they forget to declare the profits for 72% of their customer base, they also forgot to declare those customers to the (few?) legit channels they were rebroadcasting under licence. Double bubble!
mmm more court case .......
so that be back on air soon

and again my mate told me thay tray to take money out his account even thay were not on air eng off Aug

fun in the sun

Fuzzlepop Sep 24th 2008 6:58 am

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Anyone know anyone else I can use for english tv? 2.4m dish is out the of the question.

jurdyr Sep 24th 2008 3:10 pm

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bbc/itv/ch4/ch5/rte/tv3/tv6 is coming to spain new deal been done and sports movies in english
and more pm me for more
jurdy

speed999 Oct 8th 2008 10:09 am

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jurdyr, is there any reason the information on channels comming to Spain can not be published here?

GoodBloke Oct 8th 2008 7:39 pm

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Originally Posted by jurdyr (Post 6817550)
bbc/itv/ch4/ch5/rte/tv3/tv6 is coming to spain new deal been done and sports movies in english
and more pm me for more
jurdy

Sounds good - can you post details here ?

Red Devil Oct 12th 2008 2:42 am

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Originally Posted by Fuzzlepop (Post 6816351)
Anyone know anyone else I can use for english tv? 2.4m dish is out the of the question.

Torresat TV are taking over alot of Telmicro clients. We just have a mesh type dish so I don't think you would need a 2.4m dish. They have a team who just do new installations. Still no sky but they have alot of other channels.

mikelincs Oct 12th 2008 2:47 am

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Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 6867666)
Torresat TV are taking over alot of Telmicro clients. We just have a mesh type dish so I don't think you would need a 2.4m dish. They have a team who just do new installations. Still no sky but they have alot of other channels.

However they are also rebroadcasters..... but it does seem as though the telmicro thing is more linkied to fraud than their rebroaadcasting. We are booked to have torresat install at our place, have been told it can be up to 3 weeks for them to get round depending on just where you live. As we have a torresat distribution mast a few yards away, we should get a decent signal.

jurdyr Oct 12th 2008 2:58 am

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rebroaadcasting is forum of fraud aswell and if there turn off you lose you money

mikelincs Oct 12th 2008 3:10 am

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Originally Posted by jurdyr (Post 6867697)
rebroaadcasting is forum of fraud aswell and if there turn off you lose you money

we ain't paying as we live in rented accomodation, and one of the rental promises is English TV


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