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you will see that ftv , free tv to you and me on the dish but not to rebrodcast via any company out side the copyright area .... tele mirco dont have this right and like bar that have paper work on show , any one what to call to there offices and see this paper work , dont think so as the bbc/itv have say that no one has the right in spain to rebrodcast them

Now the Department of Communications in Madrid have been tell every one in Alicante area that some Frequcncy would be hightly used and some company that useing channel would be turn off for the start off the races "La Volvo Ocean Race" this companys dont have paper work to used this channels
the dept will be on the main coms area on hill ******** and will turn off and The equipment will be seize will watching not just to sea but mainland aswell
this letter was sent to lot off people in the area

ha i know how to chip the box for free tv mmmmmm ha thay tock lot off money off us and then stop brodcasting , no refuned , no one would tell used what was going on , now there up and running again and going to do the same again

free tv ......

are get a dish you alwas have you bbc.itv.ch4.ch5
and more

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will back this up aswell that uk tv will not back on again , i been heard from a few sources

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Story in the Coastrider about someone having a different rebraodcast system fitted, the fitters removed the Telmicro box and card and arial. and took it away with them.

See article

http://www.coastrider.net/news_main.htm

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Relatives say that Telmicro are definitely back, they have about 12 channels, BUT no BBC etc, ITV2 is there but no other ITV, mainly Spanish channels and the Spanish ones showing English lang movies etc. but at least they do get SKY news.

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My Vernon phoned TM this morning & he was told that we have to wait till next Wednesday, if is is not on then we should phone them again.

Wendy x

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wait for what ?
we know why there were put off air and why most this company have stop rebrodcast Uk tv

stop missing around and go out get a dish for you self
you going to get coned again give them money and that be turned off again

ha, while you at it , give "ME" your bank account no and pin no if you go to throught money away AGAIN

only pepole with this system have been give out , read the posts from page one to here again
Us that have dish have not lost any channels have told you befor the dish works yes it come from 36,000km in the sky it a satellite dish

and with TDT you get same movie channels for free with english audio


:confused: now i been down there looking for my money back ....

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We have paid till the end of the year & we are poor Pensioners.

Wendy x

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and can i have your account numbers aswell please

where not have your day trip to there office but in force and ask for you money back , right thay been 3 week off in may and 4 week this time about

you need to do what we best in getting are money back
who owns this tele mirc scam company where do the owners live

this happen in the Uk it be all over the papers and out the office prosting


San Fulgencio distances itself from Telmicro switchoff saga
San Fulgencio town hall called a press conference to explain its position on Telmicro Levante TV.

The Town Hall also wished to inform the residents of La Marina, that those wishing to make a formal complaint against Telmicro should do so not at the town hall, but by attending at their local Policia Local Office or Guardia Civil barracks to raise a Denuncia. She also stated that it would be helpful if they attended with an interpreter

for 200 euros you could have own uk tv throught a shared system

none off the spanish press have dont any major thinks on this

jurdy

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Today in Round Town News... a statement from Telmicro Lavante about coming back on air and charges...

... with a nice picture of their offices taped up by the Guardia !!!

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Thought Round Town News only came out on a Friday!!!

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there online come out every day with some new news

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there is a list of potential telemicro channels on one of the other forums...non are UK TV mainstream channels...many others are spanish or european versions of channels, and seven of them are spanish terrestrial channels..theya re going to make you pay for channels that you should be able to get for free via your tv aerial - assuming the "rebroadcasters" engineers didnt just snip the tv aerial and attached their "mesh" aerial....


found it...from a Algorfa website....
CHANNEL LIST (provisional)
1. Fox
2. Calle 13
3. Sci-Fi
4. Natura
5. MGM
6. Xtreme
7. Nickelodeon*
8. BBC World News
9. Eurosport International*
10. Eurosport 2*
11. ESPN Classics Sports*
12. MTV Hits*
13. Sky News
14. TVE 1
15. La2
16. Canal9
17. Tele5
18. Antena3
19. Cuatro
20. La Sexta
21. National Geographic
22. Telmicro Information Channel
23. Viva TV*
24. Cinestar
25. VH1 Classics*
26. Hustler TV*
27. XXX Extreme*
28. Sol Productions

This list is provisional and we expect more channels to be confirmed soon. Channels marked with an asterisk * will become available as soon as technical problems are solved.

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pay for the free channels and most this on tdt spanish free veiw
http://www.tdt.es/
juat put in you post code and see what channels you need and TDT boxes are 36 euros in Eroski santa pola will get some english programs but not bbc/itv
and lot off the tele mirco that you have to pay for every week

dont get cought out again with this company , you see it on the papers that cant rebrodcast any off the english tv channels bbc itv ch4 ch5 ukgold dave

for what you pay to then you could have a sat and box with any problems

that get cloesd down again

if this keep happen you see not just tv companys been closed down but also radio station aswell

there been watched

people in madrid are getting very pissed off whats happen

this is been watched by lot off the media company in spain

who every run this company sould put it paper work in order and brodcast the right way

i have a meeting in madrid and will ask about this companys and whats happen two then in the long run

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People are saying that they get ITV2 at the moment though.

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New update on their website today. http://www.telmicrolevante.com/. There is no mention of UK free-to-air channels, but I get them via my dish anyway. What I would like back are the film and factual channels, which look to be on their way. If they are broadcasting again, it would seem they are doing it legally, so just what does jurdyr mean by "who every run this company sould put it paper work in order and brodcast the right way" and does he/she have any vested interest n the demise of Telmicro?

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jurdyr means "who ever is running this company should ensure that its paperwork is in order and only broadcast the channels that they are allowed to broadcast".

This seems a perfectly acceptable comment to me... For example, I could say "The CEO of Hertz should ensure that they have all their paperwork in order, and when they rent their cars they do so in a way that is legal in the countries that they operate".

The only way it could possibly infer the demise of Telmicro was if the modus operandi being suggested by jurdyr meant that they no longer had a viable business model.

I understand your fears, Checkitfirst, I guess only time will tell if you are right.

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you can get all them and many more free on astra 19 and hot bird.includind lots of adult with a dish the size of a soup plate.ask stand up he will do it for you.

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Here in Torreta Florida, Torrevieja we are getting nada, nothing at all just a blank screen, we are really fed up with this fiasco. They have taken our money, we paid for a year in advance, I wonder how much interest they have made on all our year's payment?

Wendy x

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I am glad my shares in Kleenex will treble in value once these are ... UP.... and running :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Night Night


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the only ones for free on astra and/or hotbird are
BBC World News
Sky News

all the others are parts of the various pay / subscription packages on those satellites...

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I thought you said bbc/itv were on astra?

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It must be extra bad down your way.I get hundreds of channels free.you can even get a couple of them on the pc free.just download ZATTOO tv

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[QUOTE=jurdyr;6749770]pay for the free channels and most this on tdt spanish free veiw
http://www.tdt.es/

You are making the assumption that the message "Cobertura no disponible" does not appear when doing your postcode search.

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It's just possible that the owners of the mast relaying the programmes has pulled the plug. This happened with the Teleast mast, if you can get hold of telmicro they may just have an explanation.

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New update today (06/09/2008) http://www.telmicrolevante.com

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They are not new updates as such, just a change of date.

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So ......... updates then :D

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Anybody else remember life before television? Conversation, games, storytelling, singing, dancing, playing with the children, sewing, knitting, woodcarving, arts and crafts and so on. In other words, a real life of our own, not a vicarious one prepackaged and served up piecemeal to provide huge profits for the producers. Find real things to do - you will be surprised how little you miss that noisy box in the corner. A friend I worked with would not allow television in her house. Her children are now two of the most imaginative and creative adults I know.

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bbc and itv are on "astra 2" satellites at 28.5 degrees east of south
http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html


bbc world is on "astra 1" satellites at 19.2 degrees east of south....
http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

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In case onyone is being fooled into whacking out great sums of money on a large dish system as a cure for all their problems-pause and think again.I have a 2.4 dish which I am told is properly aligned, but cannot receive many of the basic channels. i.e BBC2/3/4,Ch4 etc.Even when I was paying Sky from a UK bank ( a Sky requirement), a lot of their channels were missing.Yes, I know that I am in a poor reception area
This forced me to suscribe to Telmicro.
We have not heard the last of the rebroadcasting saga-not by any means and my advice is sit tight and wait-if you can. There are already some signs of movement.

Elf

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A good honest installer (me!?:D) will always say that not all channels are available 24/7 and go through the limitaitons of BBC2,3,4 and now C4. Even with a 2.4m dish in my area some channels will drop out (the north beam channels like UKTV +1's, Sky Sports extra, SS News, Hallmark, some S Movies to name a few)...

The movement will be no UK terrestrial or pay channels, and just those that they do have contract to rebroadcast - see the list i posted a few days ago...

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Its sounds like a good time to open a dvd hire shop.

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Hi, a newbie here.

I have read most, if not all of the posts about Telmicro Levante and their recent problems. Before any more damage is done to other 're-broadcasters', I will try to put the record straight. These are just my opinions but to be fair, I should add that I do work in the business of supplying English language TV to British Expats on the Costa Blanca and Costa Calida.
1. The reason that Telmicro Levante was closed down by the Spanish authorities had nothing at all to do with the channels they were transmitting. Nobody, not even the English language free press is allowed to comment on the real reason because it is 'secreto'.

2. It is not illegal to re-broadcast english language 'free to air channels' in Spain. I have heard people ask why they should pay for 'free to air' channels? Their point of view is appreciated, but a re-broadcaster is able to provide the service at a reasonable cost directly into their homes without the need for a very large and expensive satellite dish. Look at it this way: We are all able to grow our own oranges, but most of us prefer to let the farmer do the hard work, so that we can buy them from him. We pay more for the oranges than the Farmer does, so he makes a profit so that he can carry on making more and better oranges. This is of course what a re-broadcaster or anybody else that is in business does.

3. In my view, the mid-term future of English language TV here in Spain is for customers to either invest in a large 2.4 meter dish and relevant digibox to get Sky Freesat or BBC /ITV Freesat. Although, as I have read on this forum these systems are not 100 % reliable according to the time of day, but then again, re-broadcasters have their problems too. Or shop around for a re-broadcasted package. I understand that new transmitters are coming on-line as I type.

4. The bottom line is as usual, cost. If you want to pay between 500 and 1000 euros and no monthly fee, (for free channels), and you have the space, get a big dish. If you don't, use a reputable re-broadcaster. They are out there! Trouble is. I can't say who they are!

Hope this helps.

Letsbenice.

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Hi and welcome,
Agreed with 1 that no one knows the official reason for the temporary closedown, as nothing has been offically released, but all evidence suggests that it was down to the rebroadcsating of channels that they did not have contracts and permission to rebroadcast.

It is illegal if you do not have the correct contract and permissions from the channels you are rebroadcasting....it applies to free and pay tv channels, and covered by international copyright law.

and if they could why do they not start again now...instead of some foreign versions of MGM, Cinestar, XTRM Film Channel, Sci-Fi, Calle 13, Fox, National Geographic - it should be easy enough for them to realign a dish and retune a receiver for bbc. i think many of their clients would like to see the free to air channels instead of these.

like the rebroadcaster that is installing satellite dishes, instead of mesh dishes, to make the clients think that they are receiving the signals from a satellite and not their rebroadcast mast...

rememeber - if you pay for bbc it is not from the "official" satellite...as on satellite with a dish BBC is free...

is there such a thing...???

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Thanks, Letsbenice, for the honest and fresh approach and the "insider" point of view. Whilst I sympathise with those who feel they have been ripped off, as the full reasons for the shutdown and the legal outcome are not yet known, conjecture really does not help and only serves to exacerbate the feelings of helplessness amongst those affected.

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I have to say that Sat & PC Guy is an informed source, and has almost always been accurate and helpful in what he has said on here

Sounds like Letsbenice is just as much an inside source as Sat & PC Guy from what he said

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Hi, and thanks for the welcome.

I agree that the evidence provided in the English language press points to re-broadcast issues, but, (in my opinion), that is not the case. The truth will come out in the fullness of time, but suffice it to say that other re-broadcasters have not been closed down and they are showing very similar channels.

What does concern me however, is that the 'authorities' recklessly removed transmission equipment from various locations which stopped our expats from receiving any TV at all. Ammunition, I would guess for anyone in the (Spain don't want us here), camp.

As far as I am aware, the company in question held the necessary documentation to provide their services.

Letsbenice

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tm do have correct documentation to use certain frequencies for rebroadcast and to retransmit certain channels (like calle13).

it is what other things they have put on these frequencies that they will not have any documentation / contracts for the BBC,ITV, SKY etc part of the service, as reported almost everywhere (CBN last few weeks). therefore these channels have been removed until such contract can be arranged. however i am sure that the renumeration TM will have to pay bbc for such a contract would be astronomical and therefore not worth while.

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Hi again,
Regarding the BBC they will never give permission for a company in Spain to re-broadcast their programmes because they are not receiving any licence fees from here. Imagine what an uproar there would be from UK viewers. Clearly, big dish customers would have the same concerns.

ITV do not transmit here, but they are aware that our English speakers still see the adverts, and still can buy many of the products that are shown. My guess is that ITV would be, (quietly), happy with the situation.

The point is that Sky, BBC, ITV and many independent television providers use Spanish airspace to send their signals to Britain. If they use Spanish airspace, companies based over here will use it. This applies to re-transmission companies and smaller businesses using big dishes to collect the signal.

Letsbenice.

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in reality, it is down to the programme makers and who they sell their programme to, and what area those rights cover.

if sky sports were to be made available in spain, when premiership football came on, sky would have to show something else, as TVE have spanish premiership rights. same with ITV and football rights, and movies rights, and other american series rights....

"Regarding the BBC they will never give permission for a company in Spain to re-broadcast their programmes because they are not receiving any licence fees from here" - and thats whey they should pay for a contract to rebroadcast....but dont pay for a contract, and therefore dont have permission to rebroadcast.
the bbc do have a deal in switzerland (and holland i think) for a bbc1 service on their cable service - and pay fortune for it - but i think many sports and movies are blocked and alernative programming is made available...

and think of it the other way a round...
there are two ways to restrict viewing of satellite channels - one is via a card that is only available in a certain country, the other is to put the channel on a weak "spot" beam.
if TVE2 and Teledeporte were available on satelite for free (they are part of the canal+ package and you need a card to view them) then setanta would loose out - as i am sure many people/ bars in the UK would buy a small 80-cm dish and cheap FTA receiver to watch the football for free and not pay setantas monthly subscription (and use radio 5 for commentary!). ideed, one of the italian national stations is free on hotbird, but when certain sports and movies are on they are encrypted...