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i did say most, and i know that it is not that simple - having to remove all the plastic surrounds and keyboard to move a switch that is 1mm thick and hidden underneath the insides and then putting it all back together is a pain!!

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This switch is a myth, there is no such thing, say a Dell laptop well it can be done with a paperclip, but a Tosh Fuji Lenovo or HP will on many occasion require a EEPRom change, or flash - laptops carry the basics of PC's but they have a lot more security issues in place.

Honestly mate, you dont get switches on laptops and the days of sticking something in the back is well gone.

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well the mythical switch definatley has work on two laptops that i have had in from people who locked themselves out of their BIOS by forgetting their password - i cannot remember the make and models tho..but this looks like have something similar

http://www.laptop-repair.info/acer_bios_password.html

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Probably old laptops mate, but like I say anything Top level and I would not include Acer in that is not possible.

Goverments for a start wouldnt buy them if it was that easy, speak as you find for sure, but im my everyday job I deal with this.

anyway I suggest we leave it and get back to on topic, lol

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Thanks for all the info, I think I understand it all. Is it possible to get the freeview through the Co-ship box and mesh aerial or is that aerial no good now? Do you need to leave the Telmicro card in the box or do you take it out?

Sorry, still being a bit dumb!

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to get satellite signals you require a satellite dish.
a mesh aerial is no good fr getting satellite siganls direct from the satellite - just "robbed" siganls from the rebroadcasters.
as mentioned, it should be possible to reprogramme your coship to receive the siganls from the satellite, if access to the menu search functions are not blocked.
it will ony be able to receive the free (ie unencrypted) signals
a telemicro card will only decode the telemicro signals.
you need a sky card and a sky reciver to view sky pay channels.

on a side note and my mission to clear up confusion: "freeview" the trading name of UK only digital tv service, available via a TV aerial, broadcast only from UK transmitters. there are channels on freeview (like Dave) that are not available for free on Freesat. the spanish do have their version of "freeview" called TDT.es - 30plus digital tv cahnnels by your tv aerial - see tdt.es.

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Thanks again for all the info. As there are lots of rumours going around that Telmicro might come back, I'm giving them until next week. If nothing happens by say, Tuesday, I will buy a twin output LNB for my satellite dish. Do you get these from satellite installer shops?

Where do you plug in the scart socket at the back of the Co-Ship box. There are lots of socket holes, which is the right one?

Also, one final query, and I promise this is the last one (hopefully). Everytime the electric supply goes off (even just for a minute) I have to reprogramme my Sky box. However, lately, it always asks for a pin number and unfortunately this was left behind in England and I cannot remember it. I just switch off the TV when it gets to this stage and usually about six hours later, the box has sorted itself out and I can get free to view again. Is there any way to override the request for a pin number or change the pin number?
Can anyone help with this one?

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Yes

normally on most receivers, you plug the scart cable in to the scart connection on the reciver that says "TV" - if you do not have a scart connection on your reciver, then you will need a scart cable with red, white and yellow "component" connections, which your reciver may have. isnt your coship already conencted to the telly????

the pin number for a sky card is normally the last 4 digitals of the sky card number - however, this may be different if you have had a replacement card - in which case it wil be the last 4 digital of the opriginal card - or someone has changed it. a tip maybe to give the box a few minutes before jumping to "reprogramme" (change the default transponder). To change the PIN press serives, and 3 (parental control) - you must know the current pin to access this!

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So...excuse my ignorance. My mum's inTorrevieja and has had her channels disconnected. What is her best option??

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Well Telmicro keep saying they wilbe back, but that was supposed to happen earlier this week, so it's still all up in the air. There are other providers, BUT, they now have a huge backlog of new installations.. and.. there is no guarantee that they will be able to keep there own broadcasts going. They all CLAIM to be fully licensed, but then so did Telmicro.

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500,000 euros in cash was found during the search... that's a lot of subscription money :huh:

http://www.diarioinformacion.com/sec...rcializar-ella

These pirate outfits all claim to be fully legal... they have all the Spanish legal documents to prove it. Trouble is, the signals they are pirating are UK ones... And when excatly did the UK suddenly devolve decisions on broadcasting rights to another country?

Next they'll be telling us that it's OK to drive an un-taxed UK registered car in Spain as long as it's got a Spanish ITV ;)

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Telmicro have now posted a message on their website.

I have been with them for 4 years and have no complaints at all about their customer service. I am, therefore, quite happy to accept their explanation and assurance that no charge will be made until the situation is remedied.

As the court proceedings have been ruled as secret, the rumour about €500,000 (or was it €50,000 - it seems to vary) euros in cash being found and other unverified reports, even if true, is probably sub judice so spread it at your own risk.

My user name reflects my philosophy. The World is awash with misinformation.

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another forum has quotes TM as saying it will be mid september before hey are up and running again...

oh no. i better get ready to explain that you cannot get corries using Spains ITV service:D:D:D

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and how much going to pay then again ?

ha many open again but wont have uk tv on it are are north EU tv station on it

go to Satandpcguy are some one eles and just get a dish and get it and stop waitting to get scammed again

did any one see there paper work when you were sing up to them ?

get a dish and stop waitting for bigger scam

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The rumours about the money have been well publicised in the local press, so it isn't sub judice, and in any case that would never be the sort of thing that was, sounds just a little bit as though you might be involved with them in some way.. my apologies if that isn't correct.

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[QUOTE=sounds as though you might be involved with them in some way.. my apologies if that isn't correct.[/QUOTE]

My only involvement is as a satisfied customer. Almeria is too far from Torrevieja for any other involvement. No offence taken.

As for newspaper reports, there are lies, damned lies and exclusives, to twist an old adage, and many reports and articles I have read in the English Language press here have been misleading, wrong or even dangerous, so I check carefully with other sources (including usually either the relevant Spanish authorities or the British Consulate) before making up my mind about anything.

The following is cut and pasted direct from the statement on Telmicro's web site.

6. Since all the Court proceedings have been declared secret, it is not allowed to obtain any detailed information, and it is against the law for anyone to communicate any information regarding the ongoing investigation.

All the Guardia Civil will say is that nothing can be confirmed at present. I have made no further checks but I reiterate my caution.

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[QUOTE=Checkitfirst;6706704]As for newspaper reports, there are lies, damned lies and exclusives, to twist an old adage, and many reports and articles I have read in the English Language press here have been misleading, wrong or even dangerous[QUOTE]

10. Telmicro Levante would also take this opportunity to thank the local English media for their help and support on this matter

i dont think TM would be thanking the English press (in the same statement you used) if the press were spreading the "lies", as almost all reports and popular papers reported the same things!!

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[QUOTE=Satandpcguy;6706713][QUOTE=Checkitfirst;6706704]As for newspaper reports, there are lies, damned lies and exclusives, to twist an old adage, and many reports and articles I have read in the English Language press here have been misleading, wrong or even dangerousI specifically avoided making any claim that any of the articles concerning Telmicro or the investigation were in error or "lies", merely that my personal experience has been to treat any such with caution until they have been externally verified, and that these particular articles, referring to an ongoing investigation, may have been published incautiously. As I do not get the Costa Blanca newspapers in Almeria, I cannot make any more than general comments based on my personal experience of the English Language press here in Almeria. The term "Media" also includes radio and other broadcasters, which, whilst not excluding the press, does not necessarily include it either, but then again, that works both ways.

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Well, it was a quote from the Spanish press article that was posted, and hence already in the public domain.

That doesn't answer the (obvious) question about whether any rebroadcasters have rights (other than Spanish broadcasting rights) to rebroadcast copyrighted material.

For example, I own a DVD player and many DVDs. I have the right to watch them whenever I want. It's perfectly legal, I have all the correct licences.

What I cannot do is pin a notice on my front door and invite my neighbours around to watch DVDs, whether paid for or not. That would be against the law (illegal) as I don't have a licence to rebroadcast.

It would seem to me that the same is true of anyone rebroadcasting anything BBC / ITV or SKY related.

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When I fit the twin outlet LNB to my dish, do I then have to get someone in to realine the dish?

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Being in the Public Domain does not prevent it being subject to legal process or scrutiny. It also does not mean that there was any legal right to place such information in the public domain, or that the information had been properly verified. This is why newspapers are sued for libel so often.

As to the other copyright issues, I fully agree. However, as I have had a good customer experience with Telmicro, I am prepared to accept what they publish on their web site whilst at the same time making my own checks on the legality (and morality) of their rebroadcasting. This will enable me to make an informed choice based on researched and verified information rather than a knee-jerk reaction from press sensationalism and information and advice from individuals who may well be profiting from the current climate of uncertainty. This is a general observation on human nature, not an accusation against any company, organisation or individual. I think (please correct) it was Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) who wrote "There is little happens in the affairs of men without someone profits."

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if you are very very careful, and do not move the LNB holder, and keep the correct skew (rotation angle) of the LNB, you should be ok.

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You're right about profiteering, families up and down the coast are profiting by discovering the art of conversation once again...

I just hope it works out for everybody, especially all those that have just paid good money for their subscriptions ;)

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I notice that a number of the other providers are now saying that the SKY channels are not now available due to new rules/laws, the company that is often present in Carrefour near us is currently displaying that notice. We are Ok as we use a community arial that only broadcasts the free to view channels.

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in the uk and had very good chat to some hight in the bbc and you see them going off air aswell itv ch4 ch5
bbc have ask this company to stop rebrodcasting as the copyrights
one brodcaster has told the copyright people (SGAE’s) that thay pay the bbc , when the bbc as implicated in a decision in Spain
you can have dish at you house and watch it (no problem with that )
distribution off any channel in EU is not allowed when there is a person gain Ie you pay any per month to a rebroadcaster #1 the company should have a right paper work with loacl dept of communications
#2 that the brodcaster should have a contract is an exchange of promises between two or more parties to do or refrain from doing an act which is enforceable in a court of law.
free veiw channel are for you home use only not to made money off


bbc itv ch4 ch5 do charge cable company to rebrodcast in the uk ireland

if you have 10 house and put in a privet network and dont make a profit you ok
( blind eye ) what happens , but could be ask to stop are end up in court


bbc itv ch4 ch5 rte1/2 tv3 tg4 utv skysports and few more channel only want there single to got in uk ireland that why we have to ues big dish in some area off spain (astra 2d )
and dont have to pay big copyrights bills aswell
sky charge from 1000 euros per month for pubs to show skysports per month
thay take 90% off the income that cable company get for selling there channels via cable/mmds
most rebrodcaster in spain and Eu are uesding privets accounts and sky dont make any money for it bbc itv and so on

thay many say and have the right pay work but when you rebrodcasting channels you braking the law

what happen is freeview will end due to this rebrodcast and all end up have to pay very hight for it

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Well today is the day and I'm trying to reprogramme my Co-Ship box, getting nowhere at present. The menu on my remote control is working and I've got into manual install. I've changed the frequency from 290.0 to 28.3 (and I've also had a go at 28.5), pressed the search and received the message "failure".

Before changing the frequency my manual install menu said frequency MHz 290.0, symbol rate (KS/s) 7000, QAM QAM16 and search mode single. What do you think I am doing wrong|?

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Me again. A neighbour is also trying to help me and suggested that I go into Auto Scan. That reads at present frequency (MHz) 657.0, symbol rate (KS/s) 6667, QAM QAM16, TV:0, Radio:0. Again when I press search, it comes up as failure. Any thoughts?

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first of all is your coship actually a satellite receiver? does it have FTA satellite receiver on the reciver itself?
have you aligned your satellite dish to the correct satellite? (as mentioned you cannot use your tm mesh aerial for satellite signals so i hope you are using a dish!) if you are using a satellie beeper to help in locatin satellites, rememebre it only beeps when it finds a signal, it does not tell you which satellite you are on - 13, 16, 19, 26 degrees for example are all close together!)
have you set the LNB setting to universal for astra28.2?
best it to try the frequency of 12441, polarisation, symbol rate V 27500 FEC 2/3 which is on Astra 2b South at 28.2 - if you get the BBC streams you are at least on the correct satellite. set your box for a manuasl search on astra 28.2 and on the frequency i mentioned, make sure your dish is lined up correctly, you should see signal strenght and quality shoot up if you are getting a signal, and then scan. the frequencies you have posted here are not satellite frequencies, but TM frequencies!

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It's the rebroadcasting that is the problem, anyone getting thier channels direct from a dish shold be OK, as long as their card isn't one you have to pay a fee for as that can be cut off by SKY. The FTV channels just need a FTV card, which in the UK was a one off payment. It isn't illegal to receive the programmes, BUT it is against SKY rules as you can only use the card in the UK, as that fact is in your contract, but the most they can do is to disable your card.

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OK Satandpcguy, I am going to probably embarrass myself with my question as anything beyond clicking my remote control to turn on the TV is foreign to me. Here goes! We purchased our house in Torrevieja late last year and had Telmicro come out with one of their famous mesh dishes and, voila! TV. Of course, now we have no TV signal as a result of the Telmicro mess. Anyway, when we moved into the house, there was already a TV signal through a satellite dish on the roof but it was receiving German programmes - this was disconnected when Telmicro installed their dish. Forgive my ignorance, but is it possible to get any English TV at all by getting the box re-programmed and having the German's satellite dish re-connected? Also, sorry if this question has been asked previously, but there were so many pages to pour through and read - it was quicker to just ask. Thank you.

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Quick answer....
the satellite with the german channels is astra 19 - mainly used for mainland europe channels - but there are a few english ones like sky news and bbc news.

the main uk channels are located on the astra 2 satellites at 28.2 degrees, so to even get some uk channels you will need to move your dish anticlockwise by about 10 degrees and move the inclination slightly down...then you will need to do a search on your receiver for astra2 and eurobird 1 channels - on an 80cm you will not get bbc and itvs but you will get some...

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Thank you for your reply, it's all a bit technical, you wouldn't know of anyone in the Torrevieja area who would know how to set this up, would you?

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would know two guys that would be exarm lads and are Engineers in the tv and radio feild , Ian Faulkner very good and knonaged in this
Tel 966 718 364 or 619 690 469
tell i sent you and many be help over the phone are not will call out
jurdy

tell me how you got on

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Great! Thank you so much - I'll give them a call - and I will tell them you sent me. I'll let you know what comes of it all.

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It isn't me, but if you click on to Sat&PCGUYS name, you can find his website, he isn't that far from where you are looking.

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thanks for the plug, but i dont cover the torre area - i wish i did at the moment - i tend to cover the Costa Blanca North, north of calpe / benidorm. any further south and there are plenty of installers around, although i am looking at options for expanding.....

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Theyr'e back!

Check the Telmicro website for more info.

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Claim today in the Coastrider paper that they now have 12 channels running, and more will be added, not found anyone who has been able to find these channels yet though.

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We still can't get a thing, not even Spanish TV really fed up about the whole situation.

Wendy x

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there are only a few selected channels that they have official permission to rebroadcast - like MGM and Calle 13.

and i have heard from a few sources that it is very unlikely that bbc itv and other main UK channels will be back....due to the bbc etc not giving offical permission to rebroadcast...but only time will tell if these channels reappear...

have heard lots of stories saying that when some of these rebroadcasting services were installed, the installers basically moved the cable from the spanish tv aerial and connected it to their "rebroadcasting mesh aerial" - too lazy to install a proper multi TV system and do it on the cheap and quick. i thi nk by spanish law all houses must have access to national tv...the uk has this also under the "freedom of information act" (i think) stating everyone must have access to national tv channels