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Pam Sarky Jan 14th 2007 4:08 pm

Spiders!!!
 
I wonder if any of you can help me? We were in the garden this afternoon when I spotted a bright green spider on our gate:eek: I have never seen one like that before either in the flesh or on tv, magazines etc. I have an horrendous phobia of spiders so seeing this didnt go down too well!! My question is, is this spider poisonous and if not then are there any poisonous spiders in Spain? My main concern is for my little dog and also for my sanity.

Sam

jdr Jan 14th 2007 4:30 pm

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Originally Posted by sam parky (Post 4283529)
I wonder if any of you can help me? We were in the garden this afternoon when I spotted a bright green spider on our gate:eek: I have never seen one like that before either in the flesh or on tv, magazines etc. I have an horrendous phobia of spiders so seeing this didnt go down too well!! My question is, is this spider poisonous and if not then are there any poisonous spiders in Spain? My main concern is for my little dog and also for my sanity.

Sam

Its not dangerous, there are 1700 types of spider but only three are dodgy.
HERE

Pam Sarky Jan 14th 2007 4:52 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4283569)
Its not dangerous, there are 1700 types of spider but only three are dodgy.
HERE

Hi Jdr,

This may sound really stupid to you but I cant click on it. You see my phobia is that bad that I cant look at them. Is there any chance anyone can just do it so the 3 poisonous ones show so I dont have to look at all the spiders. That alone will be bad enough!!!!

Sam

coralsoft Jan 14th 2007 5:10 pm

Re: Spiders!!!
 

Originally Posted by sam parky (Post 4283614)
Hi Jdr,

This may sound really stupid to you but I cant click on it. You see my phobia is that bad that I cant look at them. Is there any chance anyone can just do it so the 3 poisonous ones show so I dont have to look at all the spiders. That alone will be bad enough!!!!

Sam

There are no pictures of spiders on the page.
Relevant text (quoted under fair-usage copyright exemption principle)


There are more than 1,700 species of spider in Spain but only three are in way harmful to us. By far, the most dangerous is the black widow ( Latrodectus tredecimguttatus ) which gives a medically-complex and painful bite though it is not fatal. They are commonest in Valencia and Andalucía, and they are a problem in the greenhouse estates of Almeria .

The sting of the black widow, along with hysteria, was often responsible for the condition of tarantism, though at the time the much less-potent but more fearsome-looking true tarantula or wolf spider ( Lycosa tarantula ) was blamed. Wolf spiders are no relation to the much larger bird spiders of South America which have inherited the name, and their sting is weak.

Old world tarantulas (wolf spiders) are found in arid zones such as Los Monegros in Aragon. Their bite can be painful but not dangerous. Finally, the Mediterranean recluse spider ( Loxosceles rufescens ), though less toxic than its African recluse cousins, can give a painful nip. See also Land invertebrates in Spain
BTW, if you want a cure for spider phobia, most hypnotherapists or NLP practictioners should be able to manage it inside a single session (two at most). I've seen effective phobia cures completed in 10 mins, to the point where the person was able to drape a snake over their shoulders or hold a tarantula.

I cured myself in my own way quite a few years ago when in a rural house that seemed to get quite a few whoppers. They'd had me and housemate both with our feet up on the sofa when they scuttled across the floor. It was crazy that two grown men should be acting like that when it was obvious that nothing was ever going to happen to us. It's always easy to see that after meeting a spider, you're not going to come off worse and you can laugh about it once they've disappeared from sight and the shock's over.

Well, one night after I'd had a few drinks, I spotted one stationary in a corner of the wall. I went up to just look at it at first, careful not to make it move, getting closer all the time. Then I moved my hand closer and gave it a light touch, whilst forcing myself not to flinch, ie, the situation under my control. It only moved slightly and after a couple more instances, I was able to put my hand in the way of its movement until it actually climbed on. All the time concentrating on staying calm, knowing that nothing would happen and that I was in control, I let it move up and down my arm for a few seconds until I was relaxed with the sensation. After only about 30 secs, I put my new friend back on to the wall and carried on. Ever since then, I've pretty much been able to avoid the phobic reaction when they appear.

Pam Sarky Jan 14th 2007 5:42 pm

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Originally Posted by coralsoft (Post 4283648)
There are no pictures of spiders on the page.
Relevant text (quoted under fair-usage copyright exemption principle)



BTW, if you want a cure for spider phobia, most hypnotherapists or NLP practictioners should be able to manage it inside a single session (two at most). I've seen effective phobia cures completed in 10 mins, to the point where the person was able to drape a snake over their shoulders or hold a tarantula.

I cured myself in my own way quite a few years ago when in a rural house that seemed to get quite a few whoppers. They'd had me and housemate both with our feet up on the sofa when they scuttled across the floor. It was crazy that two grown men should be acting like that when it was obvious that nothing was ever going to happen to us. It's always easy to see that after meeting a spider, you're not going to come off worse and you can laugh about it once they've disappeared from sight and the shock's over.

Well, one night after I'd had a few drinks, I spotted one stationary in a corner of the wall. I went up to just look at it at first, careful not to make it move, getting closer all the time. Then I moved my hand closer and gave it a light touch, whilst forcing myself not to flinch, ie, the situation under my control. It only moved slightly and after a couple more instances, I was able to put my hand in the way of its movement until it actually climbed on. All the time concentrating on staying calm, knowing that nothing would happen and that I was in control, I let it move up and down my arm for a few seconds until I was relaxed with the sensation. After only about 30 secs, I put my new friend back on to the wall and carried on. Ever since then, I've pretty much been able to avoid the phobic reaction when they appear.

Hi Coralsoft,

I will have a look at the link.

I have often thought about going for a cure for my phobia. This may also sound daft but the reason I havent done anything about it is because I know eventually I will have to come face to face with a spider. The best thing I brought with me from the Uk was my Dyson vacuum cleaner cos that little cutie chews them to bits (sorry to all you nature lovers). I thought spiders were big in the Uk by boy are they big and hairy here!!!! I will have to do something about it because I drive my husband insane with the screaming when I see one. He doesnt have a phobia with them but he has been frightened of the odd one or two.

Thanks for the reply, it has now spurred me on to get some professional help.

Sam

Fred James Jan 14th 2007 6:03 pm

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There are Black Widow Spiders and Tarantulas in Spain.

They are, luckily, quite rare and hate humans so usually run away pretty fast.

You are more likely to get bitten by a Scorpion or a huge Centipede.

Elle1971 Jan 14th 2007 6:15 pm

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Lol Fred... that reminds me of the Peter Kay advert, where he tells his little girl... "It's not the Bogeymen you should be afraid of - it's the burglars coming in the window!" Classic!

I too dislike spiders, it's not a fear... I just vomit when I come in to close contact with them. Yet somehow it always seems to be who gets rid of them! Hmmmm... At least they eat the flies and mozzies for us!

Fred James Jan 14th 2007 6:47 pm

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Yes, I hate them too but our 4 cats usually deal with them - it's the crunchy noises when they eat them that I don't like.

They are also pretty good at catching the occasional scorpion.

keithwalters Jan 14th 2007 6:51 pm

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Originally Posted by sam parky (Post 4283712)
Hi Coralsoft,

I will have a look at the link.

I have often thought about going for a cure for my phobia. This may also sound daft but the reason I havent done anything about it is because I know eventually I will have to come face to face with a spider. The best thing I brought with me from the Uk was my Dyson vacuum cleaner cos that little cutie chews them to bits (sorry to all you nature lovers). I thought spiders were big in the Uk by boy are they big and hairy here!!!! I will have to do something about it because I drive my husband insane with the screaming when I see one. He doesnt have a phobia with them but he has been frightened of the odd one or two.

Thanks for the reply, it has now spurred me on to get some professional help.

Sam

Anne is exactly like you. Would love to get rid of her phobia but is terrified of the treatment. The hoover thing doesnt work with her as she cant bear the thought of the spider whizzing through the tube that´s in her hand and then ´being´ inside the dust bag. Believe it or not she opts for boiling a kettle of water and pouring it on them - no physical contact or even near physical contact required. Doesn´t work if they are on the ceiling though!:rolleyes:

jdr Jan 14th 2007 6:52 pm

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There are some beasties about, when I was working in the mountains one ran into a crack in the rocks and i poked a stick in and could feel it tugging on the other end. I let go of the stick and it dragged it into the hole. :scared:

Fred James Jan 14th 2007 6:57 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4283837)
There are some beasties about, when I was working in the mountains one ran into a crack in the rocks and i poked a stick in and could feel it tugging on the other end. I let go of the stick and it dragged it into the hole. :scared:


It was probably training to be an estate agent!

jdr Jan 14th 2007 6:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 4283847)
It was probably training to be an estate agent!

LOL

Pam Sarky Jan 14th 2007 7:02 pm

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Originally Posted by keithwalters (Post 4283834)
Anne is exactly like you. Would love to get rid of her phobia but is terrified of the treatment. The hoover thing doesnt work with her as she cant bear the thought of the spider whizzing through the tube that´s in her hand and then ´being´ inside the dust bag. Believe it or not she opts for boiling a kettle of water and pouring it on them - no physical contact or even near physical contact required. Doesn´t work if they are on the ceiling though!:rolleyes:

Hi Keith,

I have two vacuums, one with a dust bag and one a Dyson. When I see a spider I have to use the Dyson. First because it has a longer tube so I dont get close to it and second because it chews it up so it can never escape and crawl around my house again.

In July we had family over. We were all going out of the front door and I was last out. There it was staring at me with two huge eyes!!!! Just like a tarantula black and brown stripes and hairy (just a little bit smaller). I think the whole of the Costa de la Luz must have heard me scream. My husband took one look at it and his words were "oh shit". He tried to move it away but it wasnt having any of it. While he was trying to do this I was screaming in the back ground. In the end he had to get an edging tile and it took some beating but he did kill it. He hates to kill things and that is why I would love to get rid of my phobia.

Sam

keithwalters Jan 14th 2007 7:15 pm

Re: Spiders!!!
 

Originally Posted by sam parky (Post 4283858)
Hi Keith,

I have two vacuums, one with a dust bag and one a Dyson. When I see a spider I have to use the Dyson. First because it has a longer tube so I dont get close to it and second because it chews it up so it can never escape and crawl around my house again.

In July we had family over. We were all going out of the front door and I was last out. There it was staring at me with two huge eyes!!!! Just like a tarantula black and brown stripes and hairy (just a little bit smaller). I think the whole of the Costa de la Luz must have heard me scream. My husband took one look at it and his words were "oh shit". He tried to move it away but it wasnt having any of it. While he was trying to do this I was screaming in the back ground. In the end he had to get an edging tile and it took some beating but he did kill it. He hates to kill things and that is why I would love to get rid of my phobia.

Sam


:D

How are you with the great big flying praying mantises (or is it mantii?). That is the other thing that gets Anne. And they can be big bast***s! She had one on the windscreen the other day. Thought flying down the motorway at top speed would dislodge it - nope. So then she tried the windscreen wipers - it just hung on. She was too scared to get out of the car in case it flew after her. I just thought it was hilarious. :D :D

Pam Sarky Jan 14th 2007 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by keithwalters (Post 4283886)
:D

How are you with the great big flying praying mantises (or is it mantii?). That is the other thing that gets Anne. And they can be big bast***s! She had one on the windscreen the other day. Thought flying down the motorway at top speed would dislodge it - nope. So then she tried the windscreen wipers - it just hung on. She was too scared to get out of the car in case it flew after her. I just thought it was hilarious. :D :D

Lol I would be exactly the same. Can you believe a butterfly flew into my car through the window once and I just pulled up screaming and got out and wouldnt get back in till the butterfly had gone!!!!

Sam

Miss Naughty Jan 14th 2007 9:26 pm

Re: Spiders!!!
 
hI,
How often do you see spiders and scopion's is it often or not?

I cured my own phobia a couple of months ago (i freaked and sweat when i saw spiders) I knew i had to get over it, to show my little girl that i was not scared.
So i got very drunk and went in the garden and picked one up from the hedge i was shaking but i have overcome it with all normal size spider's.
I would not want to pick one up every time but i am know longer crapping myself xxx
Hubby is still shit scared ha ha ha:)

mikelincs Jan 15th 2007 6:29 am

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Originally Posted by Miss Naughty (Post 4284217)
hI,
How often do you see spiders and scopion's is it often or not?

I cured my own phobia a couple of months ago (i freaked and sweat when i saw spiders) I knew i had to get over it, to show my little girl that i was not scared.
So i got very drunk and went in the garden and picked one up from the hedge i was shaking but i have overcome it with all normal size spider's.
I would not want to pick one up every time but i am know longer crapping myself xxx
Hubby is still shit scared ha ha ha:)

Seen the odd small spider a few times, but NEVER seen a scorpion, thankfully. Fortunately I'm not afraid of spiders, but scorpions would be a different kettle of fish.

mrsjdr Jan 15th 2007 8:46 am

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I hate all creepy crawlies, but butterflies and moths are the worst, it´s all that fluttering I hate. Lived in the country in UK and had loads of spiders off the fields, but here have rrarelyseen a spider where we live. Did have a VERY long ccentipedeonce, bright orange colour, hubby got it in a jar and through it out, hardly fitted into the jar!:scared:

Fred James Jan 15th 2007 9:43 am

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Originally Posted by mrsjdr (Post 4285339)
Did have a VERY long ccentipede once, bright orange colour, hubby got it in a jar and through it out, hardly fitted into the jar!:scared:

It's a Megarian Banded Centipede. They bite!

I got bitten by one and it was a bad as a wasp sting.

Picture here http://tinyurl.com/yj4skc

mrsjdr Jan 15th 2007 10:05 am

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 4285503)
It's a Megarian Banded Centipede. They bite!

I got bitten by one and it was a bad as a wasp sting.

Picture here http://tinyurl.com/yj4skc

Thanks for that, looks like the same one, had a lucky escape didn´t we?

Chiclanagir Jan 15th 2007 5:35 pm

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Originally Posted by mrsjdr (Post 4285339)
I hate all creepy crawlies, but butterflies and moths are the worst, it´s all that fluttering I hate. Lived in the country in UK and had loads of spiders off the fields, but here have rrarelyseen a spider where we live. Did have a VERY long ccentipedeonce, bright orange colour, hubby got it in a jar and through it out, hardly fitted into the jar!:scared:

I can pick up a rat or a snake but put a wasp or a moth near me and I am a gibbering wreck.

Rocky Balboa Apr 30th 2007 9:16 am

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Does anybody know what type of spider it is that I keep finding in my pool during the hot summer months.

They are big, thick, black and hairy. I never see them in the garden or anywhere else apart from when they appear at the bottom of my pool.

My old gardener said they try to cool off in the pool and that they bite.

Anybody know what they are?

jdr Apr 30th 2007 10:36 am

Re: Spiders!!!
 

Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa (Post 4717226)
Does anybody know what type of spider it is that I keep finding in my pool during the hot summer months.

They are big, thick, black and hairy. I never see them in the garden or anywhere else apart from when they appear at the bottom of my pool.

My old gardener said they try to cool off in the pool and that they bite.

Anybody know what they are?

Check out the link on post 2of this thread. ;-)

Fuzzlepop Apr 30th 2007 11:27 am

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Not really came across many spiders so far, only thing that scared me was some weird grasshopper with huge wings in playa flamenca. Was walking through some waste ground and it jumped onto me and got stuck on my clothes, it was huge not seen them that big before.

Pam Sarky Apr 30th 2007 11:30 am

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Originally Posted by Fuzzlepop (Post 4717669)
Not really came across many spiders so far, only thing that scared me was some weird grasshopper with huge wings in playa flamenca. Was walking through some waste ground and it jumped onto me and got stuck on my clothes, it was huge not seen them that big before.

OMG, I would have died :eek:

jandy44 Apr 30th 2007 11:32 am

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Hi eveyone,
It was Sat.afternoon,I was quite happy,sat having a bit of quality time on the sofa ,with the lappy of course,my O/H had finished work early,and fell asleep on the other sofa,then all of a sudden I heard this buzzing ,happen to see a dirty great wasp on the cable to the puter :eek: well I never moved so quick ,disgarding the lappy,ran screaming to the kitchen to get the wasp spray,George because I was yelling made a fast retreat to the garden :ohmy:
got the wasp spray returned to the room and frantically sprayed the room,then I saw one buzzing at the window,oh god,went closer and sprayed,the flippen thing then it fell behind the sofa,O/H still asleep,by this time I decided it was time to get out of the house,so I took George for a long walk.I returned causiously went back in the room,I couldnt here any buzzing,but was still aware of the one under the sofa,so I got the pouf to rest my feet on cause I was scared it would crawl out on to my feet.By the way the puter screen was covered in wasp spray,a right mess,well the O/H woke up,I explained what had happened,I wasnt satisfied until he lifted the sofa out and remved the pesky thing,Im jumping about frantically in case it flew around the room:eek: It was a nice day,but had to close all the windows and doors so no more could get in.

Last summer I saw something huge crawling across the floor,goodness knows what it was,I didnt stay in the room long enough to find out,I went running out of the house like something demented,shutting the doors behind me,I didnt know what to do,I was scared to go back in,so I went around to a neibours house,and asked " are you scared of crawley things" he found it amusing:blink: but he did come round and removed the blighter.

Goodness what goes through Georges head ,when we are out and about if a wasp or bee comes close,I take off into a run,waving and flapping my arms about,anyone would think I was going to be murdere :eek: http://bestsmileys.com/angry1/8.gif

Rocky Balboa Apr 30th 2007 12:00 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 4717519)
Check out the link on post 2of this thread. ;-)

Cheers, my Lord it's a blinkin Tarantula. I was joking with Mrs last summer that we had Tarantulas in the garden :ohmy: and there really is!

I wish they'd stay out of my pool. It's either a Hairy Mygalomorph or a Lycosa by the looks of things.

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/spi...osa_helluo.jpg

The funnelweb Mygalomorph Macrothele calpeiana (= M. calpetana) is a huge black and hairy spider, appearing dangerous, even sinister. Maybe it's the largest european spider (up to 40 mm - or more?). Macrothele is found in southern parts of Spain (Provinces of Cádiz, Huelva, Malaga, Badajoz and maybe Seville).
[Ronda, Andalusia, S Spain, March 2000.]

http://www.oeko-msc.de/Macrothele-calpeiana_1.jpg

jandy44 Apr 30th 2007 12:06 pm

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[QUOTE=Rocky Balboa;4717803]Cheers, my Lord it's a blinkin Tarantula. I was joking with Mrs last summer that we had Tarantulas in the garden :ohmy: and there really is!

I wish they'd stay out of my pool. It's either a Hairy Mygalomorph or a Lycosa by the looks of things.

Oh dear Rocky,THAT IS NASTY,what are you trying to do scare everyone off here:eek: :eek:

Rocky Balboa Apr 30th 2007 12:18 pm

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I hate spiders, scare the life out of me. When we first moved here I was made up as the only spiders we get in the house are those long spindly things which are harmless. That was until I awoke one day and stepped into the pool only to look down and see a huge hairy spider tickling my toes :omg_smile:

It's deffo one of these, luckily they only come out at night so no more night time dips in the summer, oh no.

http://www.giantspiders.com/article11.html

Mitzyboy Apr 30th 2007 12:26 pm

Re: Spiders!!!
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 4283742)
There are Black Widow Spiders and Tarantulas in Spain.
They are, luckily, quite rare and hate humans so usually run away pretty fast.
You are more likely to get bitten by a Scorpion or a huge Centipede.

Oh thats OK then ... thanks for that :eek: :eek: :eek:

Elle1971 Apr 30th 2007 12:41 pm

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Okay... so the notification arrives in my inbox - with the title "Spiders!!!". So why oh why oh why do I feel the need to have a look... and then open every damn link on the page! I must be a sucker for punishment. I don't fear spiders... but I do get very nauseous around them (childhood experience - I won't go into details... as just typing it will make me vomit.:blink:

Ok... started typing this almost 10 minutes ago. back now, and feeling ucky!

I'm off to check under the beds, and the sofas. Oh, and will shake out my boots before I put my feet in them.

*Elle shudders*

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...e/bb8c17ef.gif

mikelincs Apr 30th 2007 2:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Fuzzlepop (Post 4717669)
Not really came across many spiders so far, only thing that scared me was some weird grasshopper with huge wings in playa flamenca. Was walking through some waste ground and it jumped onto me and got stuck on my clothes, it was huge not seen them that big before.

Had three on my plants in the last two days, but they soon fly away if you pick them up and throw them in the air. They are AFAIK, a type of cricket. We've heard the first cicadas of spring this weekend, so soon get a lot of noise from them in the afternoon and the crickets at night, but, lets face it they are only looking for mates...:lol:

rugbymatt Apr 30th 2007 2:57 pm

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Be thankful you aren't a camel!

mikelincs Apr 30th 2007 2:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa (Post 4717803)
Cheers, my Lord it's a blinkin Tarantula. I was joking with Mrs last summer that we had Tarantulas in the garden :ohmy: and there really is!

I wish they'd stay out of my pool. It's either a Hairy Mygalomorph or a Lycosa by the looks of things.

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/spi...osa_helluo.jpg

The funnelweb Mygalomorph Macrothele calpeiana (= M. calpetana) is a huge black and hairy spider, appearing dangerous, even sinister. Maybe it's the largest european spider (up to 40 mm - or more?). Macrothele is found in southern parts of Spain (Provinces of Cádiz, Huelva, Malaga, Badajoz and maybe Seville).
[Ronda, Andalusia, S Spain, March 2000.]

http://www.oeko-msc.de/Macrothele-calpeiana_1.jpg


Ahhhhhhhh they're so sweet... :p :sneaky:

Lionda Apr 30th 2007 5:45 pm

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This thread has cheered me up no end!!! :ohmy: :eek:

jdr Apr 30th 2007 5:56 pm

Re: Spiders!!!
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 4719002)
This thread has cheered me up no end!!! :ohmy: :eek:

I have seen more snakes than spiders and they are rare enough. ;-)

rugbymatt Apr 30th 2007 6:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 4719002)
This thread has cheered me up no end!!! :ohmy: :eek:

you didn't like my spiders?

mikelincs Apr 30th 2007 6:18 pm

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Friend tells me she always wears shoes whn she walks her dog on the waste ground opposite because of the Snakes... helppp.. I wish she had told me that, I walked her dogs last year.. never knew about the snakes..:curse:

Rocky Balboa Apr 30th 2007 6:38 pm

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 4719102)
Friend tells me she always wears shoes whn she walks her dog on the waste ground opposite because of the Snakes... helppp.. I wish she had told me that, I walked her dogs last year.. never knew about the snakes..:curse:

I won't mention the poisonous caterpillars and toads then, don't let your dog near them or it could die. :ohmy:

mikelincs Apr 30th 2007 6:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa (Post 4719160)
I won't mention the poisonous caterpillars and toads then, don't let your dog near them or it could die. :ohmy:

ohh I know about them.. just wasn't aware of the snakes...... :lol: :curse:


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