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Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
They have all got it wrong Stevie knows best...and that woman in the Islands writing fairly stories. :rofl::rofl:
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Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 10692154)
They have all got it wrong Stevie knows best...and that woman in the Islands writing fairly stories. :rofl::rofl:
Thanks to Stevies legendary links we now know for sure that there is no crisis at all and the country is actually booming. ;) The totally unfounded rumour was simply an evil conspiracy and an excuse to cut peoples wages or put them out of work. :sneaky: |
Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10692567)
Of course they've got it all wrong.
Thanks to Stevies legendary links we now know for sure that there is no crisis at all and the country is actually booming. ;) The totally unfounded rumour was simply an evil conspiracy and an excuse to cut peoples wages or put them out of work. :sneaky: Get a grip. If there are numbers of Brits not getting treatment they are entitled to in Spain, people need to know - I and my partner would be as affected as anyone so I'd like to see evidence. But if you can't produce any real evidence, we'll mark it down to the normal tag-team scare story, shall we? Interesting that people who live in Spain full-time, and have experience first- and second-hand, so far have not verified these stories? But yes, that doesn't mean it can't happen in isolated cases - so let's have the evidence. Please? |
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You seem to have got all the evidence in the links provided above from Meme and others. Not the tag team it's just normal forum members exposing your propaganda and despite official proofyou refuse to believe it. Most people living there wouldn't know....they can't use the EHIC:confused:
Why would it affect you...off on another 4 day easyjet trip:rofl: |
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Sorry Stevie, no offence, but I've got to agree with me me and seriously wonder if you realize just how silly you make yourself appear.
You are asking us to believe that the hearsay and tittle tattle you claim to have picked up carries more weight of evidence than all that collected by both UK and EU authorities put together ! I'm truly amazed that you are so naive as too expect anyone to take you seriously. :confused: |
Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10692845)
Sorry Stevie, no offence, but I've got to agree with me me and seriously wonder if you realize just how silly you make yourself appear.
You are asking us to believe that the hearsay and tittle tattle you claim to have picked up carries more weight of evidence than all that collected by both UK and EU authorities put together ! I'm truly amazed that you are so naive as too expect anyone to take you seriously. :confused: |
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 10692813)
You seem to have got all the evidence in the links provided above from Meme and others. Not the tag team it's just normal forum members exposing your propaganda and despite official proofyou refuse to believe it. Most people living there wouldn't know....they can't use the EHIC:confused:
Why would it affect you...off on another 4 day easyjet trip:rofl: Again, same as with Dick - do you Katy, have any evidence that Brits either on holiday (as per the story) or living in Spain, are not getting treatment they are entitled to? I would have thought that some would have slipped through the net, but it hardly seems widespread if we haven't yet got verified instances? Edit: I'll make it easier for J2, Aggy and DD - i won't post further on this thread, so you won't feel a need to go into attack-mode. All that readers need, is some factual evidence, if this is indeed happening. Health issues concern us all. |
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So if 2 members living in Spain came on to re-enforce your twisted view then that would be better evidence than the EU Commission and Tom Cobbley and all. There was also a programme on BBC last year where they interviewed some Valencian pharmacists and they were saying the same as Me Me. :blink:
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Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 10692879)
So if 2 members living in Spain came on to re-enforce your twisted view then that would be better evidence than the EU Commission and Tom Cobbley and all. There was also a programme on BBC last year where they interviewed some Valencian pharmacists and they were saying the same as Me Me. :blink:
I mean all the evidence collected by the EU from people in numerous European countries, plus all the evidence collected by UK authorities, plus my own FIRST HAND experience and that of others I know, is obviously entirely worthless compared to the tittle tattle/hearsay that our Stevie claims to have come across. I sometimes wonder if he has imaginary voices in his head ordering him to always be in denial of the real facts or could it possibly be that Rajoy secretly had his own personal propaganda machine chipped and pre-programmed like a robot during his last visit to Madrid and the lad is actually blissfully unaware of the repetitive nonsense he is continually spouting? :rofl: |
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Rodriguez: “We will not close the Hospital San Roque de Maspalomasâ€
Posted by The Editor on May 1st, 2013 Rodriguez: ‘We do not want to close the Hospital de Maspalomas’ Mercedes Sanchez Mario Rodriguez, president of the San Roque Hospital Group, said last week that his intention is to maintain the hospital in San Bartolomé. Rodriguez made ​​this statement in the Radio Canaries program “A Journal†because of the controversy arising from the Canary Islands Health Service having defaulted on payments to Hospital San Roque Maspalomas. The group´s President said that in this situation “we would like to recover the lost money, as we want to keep the hospital in the south of Gran Canaria. It is unfair that we are having to use the results of our activities to cover the losses that the Canary Islands Health Service are generating †said Rodriguez, who reiterated that they are suffering from “wilful†suffocation from department heads to force the hospital´s closure. Mario Rodriguez said that in his view there has been a deliberate system of â€decrease in volume, which does not have anything to do with the economic crisis.†Obstacles to generating employment. “We are owners of a privately run public hospital and we need to recover or find profit for invested capital†said the president of San Roque Hospital Group. Rodriguéz reminded politicians that the ones who create jobs, wealth and prosperity are entrepreneurs. “Leaders should not hinder our vocation to creating jobs†he said pointing out that people who are employed do not seek benefits. |
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The explanation as to what is really happening...
http://compasshealthcare.blogspot.co...mongering.html |
Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
So it's taken you more than a weeks dredging and googling to come up with that. :thumbdown:
Not a single shred of evidence there to say that any one of the reported incidents did not occur ? Does it not cross your mind as strange that there has not been a single official protest or denial from the Spanish health authorities or the Govt if the widely reported events were false and part of some ridiculous conspiracy ?????????? I wonder why ? Because it happens. It's been happening for a long time. Many ppl. throughout the Eu know it happens. I have personal experience of it happening. Do you wish to call us all liars ?????????? |
Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 10705839)
So it's taken you more than a weeks dredging and googling to come up with that. :thumbdown:
Not a single shred of evidence there to say that any one of the reported incidents did not occur ? Does it not cross your mind as strange that there has not been a single official protest or denial from the Spanish health authorities or the Govt if the widely reported events were false and part of some ridiculous conspiracy ?????????? I wonder why ? Because it happens. It's been happening for a long time. Many ppl. throughout the Eu know it happens. I have personal experience of it happening. Do you wish to call us all liars ?????????? The evidence I have from various contacts in Spain (and from articles like the one I linked to), is that if I have a valid EHIC and am taken ill in Spain, I will be treated foc at a national hospital (not a private one) - otherwise I will need valid insurance, which I will make sure I have in future. My mind is totally at rest on this issue. Just as you are free to take the opposite viewpoint. Can a doctor refuse to treat me if I have forgotten my card? Medical ethics dictate that a doctor cannot refuse to treat you if your state of health requires treatment. However, there is no guarantee that your costs will be reimbursed under the same conditions as if you had been able to prove that you had social security insurance at the time by presenting the card or an equivalent document. The doctor or medical establishment might well ask you to pay the full cost or to pay up front a proportion of the costs which an insured person in that same Member State would not be asked to pay. In an emergency your local health authority might be able to help by faxing or e-mailing you a provisional replacement certificate, which gives you the same protection as the European Health Insurance Card So it's taken you more than a weeks dredging and googling |
Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 10705860)
I really have no interest in your scare-mongering.
The evidence I have from various contacts in Spain (and from articles like the one I linked to), is that if I have a valid EHIC and am taken ill in Spain, I will be treated foc at a national hospital (not a private one) - otherwise I will need valid insurance, which I will make sure I have in future. My mind is totally at rest on this issue. Just as you are free to take the opposite viewpoint. Oh, btw, this is a tip for you Dick. Using google to find current information is very time-consuming and unless you are very stupid I'd advise you not to use it so much. I found that article turn up on my twitter timeline just a few minutes ago- no searching required. Do you think that the vast majority of visitors to Spain are not already well aware of their rights regarding use of the EHIC ??? It's because some of them have had those rights violated that the various complaints have come in !!! Wether you twittered or googled is irrelevant, as your link is virtually as worthless as your own opinion sitting on your backside in London, which unbelievably you seem to expect everyone to accept on your own personal say so and extremely limited experience. |
Re: Spanish Hospitals.....
not every holidaymaker arrives in an EU country with an EHIC. Many think because they are British they don't need to bother in the EU.
And IF it happens, it isn't just Spain but most other countries in the EU and it also happens to others than Brits. Just the NHS is so blind that they will treat and worry about the payment later, unlike most other countries. And look at the £millions owed by EU students for their university education who have completed and gone home owing money to Student Loans. Perhaps people should worry about the Uk before Sp ` |
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