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Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 10364937)
The inside lane of the roundabout works just like the second lane in the road leading up to the roundabout. You can use the inside lane, but you must make sure your exit is clear because you do not have priority over the people on the outside lane.
The amount of British people I've heard say that the Spanish dont know how to use roundabouts when actually it is the Brits who are cutting up the Spanish drivers because they dont realise that the highway code is different in Spain |
Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 10364937)
The amount of British people I've heard say that the Spanish dont know how to use roundabouts when actually it is the Brits who are cutting up the Spanish drivers because they dont realise that the highway code is different in Spain It's not only on rbts they make a belated dive across your bows to hit their exit road. Despite the fact that the authorities have painted solid lines next to motorway exit roads to stop this nonsense, they still seem to take great delight in making a belated desperate and dangerous dive across the inside lane traffic to hit their slip road. With regard to the 3 into 2 at a rbt, I have seen it elsewhere and the least they could do is provide a prior warning for those who don't know the road and could be forgiven for expecting the three lanes to continue, otherwise it is another nonsense and simply looking to cause bother. |
Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Here's another point of view:
http://www.ft.com/cm...l#ixzz2BJAw7lE9 Why I remain a pessimist on Europe’s solvency By Wolfgang Münchau November 4, 2012 6:53 pm I should have known what would happen when you post a question at the end of a column. Last week I asked how it could be, that somebody who was pessimistic about the eurozone six months ago could be optimistic today? If you always thought it was just a liquidity crisis, you should not have been worried then, and you would be right to be optimistic now. If you thought of it as a solvency crisis, as I did, you should still be worried now. Several readers pointed out to me, quite rightly, that I offered only an extreme choice. What about a solvency crisis that is not inherent but caused by a liquidity squeeze – a self-perpetuating insolvency crisis? Solvency is, after all, an analytic concept. It depends on the level of debt, future growth, ability to tap private sector wealth through taxation, ability to raise funds through privatisation and, of course, future market interest rates. Reasonable people could disagree on all of these. Even Germany could be considered insolvent if you assumed a sufficiently high interest rate. Distinguishing pure sovereign risk (minus the contingent liabilities for the financial and non-financial private sectors) from risks that have arisen purely in those sectors, my judgment on the solvency of various entities in the eurozone has been the following. In the first category, I consider Greece to be unconditionally insolvent; Italy and Portugal to be solvent – but conditional upon a return to sustained growth. I consider the sovereigns of Spain, Ireland and the rest to be fundamentally solvent – minus the banks, of course. In the second category, I consider the private and financial sectors in Spain, Portugal and Ireland to be insolvent. Once you conflate sovereign and financial sector risk, the situation becomes more complicated. My bottom line is that the national backstops have not removed, and have possibly increased, the total solvency risk in the system. Even worse, I believe the outlook for solvency has deteriorated over the past six months due to the effects of austerity on growth at a time when interest rates have hit their lower limit. The economists Dawn Holland and Jonathan Portes have pointed out one other reason why the fiscal multiplier is unusually high at the moment: everyone is pursuing austerity at the same time. We may well have crossed the line where austerity not only raised debt ratios in the short run, which is to be expected, but may end up increasing them even in the long run – so that it becomes self-defeating. So if you started from where I did, you cannot be optimistic. But then again, as an Irish saying goes, you might not start from here. John McHale, economics professor at the National University of Ireland, Galway, has argued that official policy can restore financial health in a self-perpetuating solvency crisis, provided a number of conditions are met. He lists four. First, the liquidity support given through the European Central Bank’s Outright Monetary Transactions programme and other mechanisms must be reliable. Second, the conditions must be reasonable. Third, the conditionality must be flexible – unanticipated shocks should not trigger fiscal adjustments in future. Fourth, the link between banking sector losses and state debt must be broken. I concede that these conditions, especially the fourth, could restore solvency everywhere except in Greece. The problem is that they stand in contrast to official policy. The ECB has only announced the OMT programme. So far, nobody has made an application. The Spanish prime minister is still playing hard to get and I doubt he will make an application this year. The OMT may end up as a phantom. As in Hans Christian Andersen’s fairy tale – I am writing this column from Denmark – it may not be very long until some child in the bond markets points out that Mario Draghi has no clothes. Second, it has been, and continues to be, official policy that countries must heap one austerity programme on top of another if they miss nominal deficit targets – which they do because they keep underestimating the fiscal multiplier. Finally, even though I assume that eurozone leaders want to set up a meaningful banking union, I see no chance that this will lead to a separation of banking and sovereign risks. Angela Merkel stated clearly that this was not going to happen. The main significance of the OMT, should it ever become a reality, would be to prevent a contagious spiral between bank debt and sovereign debt for approximately two to three years. This would be important in its own right, but does not in itself improve the underlying solvency of the various entities, given current policy choices. You have to make some brave assumptions about the future – continued rollover, separation of banking and sovereign risks, readiness for fiscal transfers, readiness to abandon austerity – all of which stand in complete contrast to officially announced policies. Solvency thus depends on the assumption that official policy is a lie. One could make that assumption, of course. I have not, and would not. |
Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
It seems to me there are so many different points of view that to Joe public they become meaningless.
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Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by johnnyone
(Post 10376596)
It seems to me there are so many different points of view that to Joe public they become meaningless.
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Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by cricketman
(Post 10364937)
The inside lane of the roundabout works just like the second lane in the road leading up to the roundabout. You can use the inside lane, but you must make sure your exit is clear because you do not have priority over the people on the outside lane.
The amount of British people I've heard say that the Spanish dont know how to use roundabouts when actually it is the Brits who are cutting up the Spanish drivers because they dont realise that the highway code is different in Spain Sometime ago I cut up a Spanish girl on a roundabout using the British method of going straight ahead. She chased me into a petrol station where we had a blazing row in our respective languages, calling me a "pine tree" for some reason. I now realize I was completely in the wrong. Speaking of roundabouts, be also aware of the white van cruising up past stationary traffic in the left-hand lane of a dual carriageway coming up to a roundabout and cutting across you to use the RIGHT-HAND exit. The second time this happened to me I was sort of expecting it and didn't have a nervous breakdown. |
Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by notacontrathinker
(Post 10443889)
Thank you to all the posters for clearing this up for me. :thumbsup:
Sometime ago I cut up a Spanish girl on a roundabout using the British method of going straight ahead. She chased me into a petrol station where we had a blazing row in our respective languages, calling me a "pine tree" for some reason. I now realize I was completely in the wrong. Speaking of roundabouts, be also aware of the white van cruising up past stationary traffic in the left-hand lane of a dual carriageway coming up to a roundabout and cutting across you to use the RIGHT-HAND exit. The second time this happened to me I was sort of expecting it and didn't have a nervous breakdown. BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums. Please let me know if you need any further help. Rosemary |
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Hi Rosemary, Hi All,
Looks like a great forum ! Plenty of facts to keep me uptodate legal, and plenty of entertainment as well (it's like Chubby Brown meets Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson !). Can't wait to contribute. |
Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by notacontrathinker
(Post 10443889)
Speaking of roundabouts, be also aware of the white van cruising up past stationary traffic in the left-hand lane of a dual carriageway coming up to a roundabout and cutting across you to use the RIGHT-HAND exit. The second time this happened to me I was sort of expecting it and didn't have a nervous breakdown. |
Re: Spanish crisis from a different point of view
Originally Posted by notacontrathinker
(Post 10443889)
Speaking of roundabouts, be also aware of the white van cruising up past stationary traffic in the left-hand lane of a dual carriageway coming up to a roundabout and cutting across you to use the RIGHT-HAND exit. The second time this happened to me I was sort of expecting it and didn't have a nervous breakdown. Cman is right (it had to happen sometime) about the rules, but many of the Spanish don't stick to them. I have often been badly screwed by someone using the wide lane to go right around the roundabout without signalling in any way (are you supposed to signal?) and similarly had many cars cut right across me from the tight lane to turn off. The rule may be the rule but a) it's a bad rule and b) it's not stuck to. |
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