steviedeluxe

Fed up with all the negative stuff from one side?

Here's the counter view - it starts off by quickly listing the down points eg unemployment levels, bond crises etc. But then it shows all the positive things about Spain, which will surprise many, as some of them aren't so well publicised.
Did you know Spain has the highest organ donation rate in the World? (plenty of economic and tech achievements in there too, not forgetting the football!)

cricketman

That's exactly the communication that Spain needs to get out there - in order to attract future investment

Essential viewing for one or two on here too

Shame about the robotic American accent

Rosemary

Very well put together, a lot of surprises in there too.

Rosemary

amideislas

Silly Spanish...
This propaganda video doesn't bother to use a stupid American accent because they know American investors would never believe it anyway.
But without the robotic accent, maybe the Brits might buy it...

Pocaloca

Interesting. Shame the govt has cut the science R&D budget by a quarter, it makes you wonder whose side they are on.

Fredbargate

2 comments:-

1) I have been told for many years that the reason Spain is able to perform so many transplants is due to the driving standards, i.e. more spare parts available and generally from youngish bodies.

2) Having had the unfortunate experience of dealing with Grant Thornton, if anyone from that company was to tell me that Christmas day this year was the 25th of December I would check my diary before accepting their statement.

Now I expect to be accused of hating Spain.

Domino

no problem Fred, I have just been told by a BE knowitall I have a supply of cooking sherry - as if I would sink so low - but you can share the real stuff with me

and having just read that some "scholars" think that Jesus was born in March, perhaps 25th Dec isnt the correct date, just a convenient pagan day of celebration that came in handy for learned men to conjour with
Do GT come under the heading of "learned men" ?
I didnt think so

cricketman

Absolute rubbish Fred

Spain now has below average deaths on the roads for a European country

Again, you are using outdated sterotypes to make poor judgements..

Except in the case of Grant Thornton I used to work for one of their competitors. Yes they are a multi-national PR company, it is their job to produce propaganda. BUT, this is exactly what the Spanish government and industry must do, they need to get out their positive messages to the world because they are being drowned out by messages from other PR companies who are contracted by others who's interest it is in putting Spain down

amideislas

Yes, there's just too much good news lately. I can't stand it anymore.
I, like many others, would gladly pay a PR company zillions to make up more bad news.

Glad to hear someone's finally doing it without costing me a fortune.

cricketman

I must have dreamt about the 3 years I worked in a PR company then, because they cant possibly be true!

amideislas

Nobody said you didn't. Why would you feel any need to defend yourself about it?

If you feel the need to defend yourself, then defend this:

It seems to me that the facts alone would be enough to satisfy anyone's predisposition to develop negative sentiment on Spain, without having to hire a PR firm to make up even more bad news. There's already plenty to go around. It would be a complete waste of money, would benefit nobody, and frankly, is just plain ludicrous to even suggest it.

But it's completely expected that you would make a claim like this. Why is that?

Could it be that it's behaviour that you would foolishly engage in, so you presume everyone else would?

Considering your history, I don't think that's too far off the mark.

rugbymatt

I seem to remember you have started fights you couldn't finish once before because of your little snipes and digs in every thread you post in. Just because you were wrong, don't be a baby and sulk all over the forum. Brat.

rugbymatt

OK, just watched the Vid, Steve mate, even for you that was about the most sickly sweet bit of company based powerpoint propaganda ever!

cricketman

Tell me the facts about why the Spanish economy is doing worse than the other big economies in the world then?

Because the basic numbers are no worse than for the the UK, US and even Germany. These countries all have a higher % of debt and a higher deficit than Spain. Spain cannot refinance their debts at a reasonable rate because the risk rates are set by humans, who consume media and are affected by the sentiment reflected in that media.

e.g. If you read a paper like the Daily Mail there are only two types of stories
1. Those articles paid for by PR companies though their clients
2. Controversial stories to drive traffic to their paper so that people can read the paid-for stories

I only quote the Daily Mail because it is obvious, but the same happens in all the major UK newspapers to some extent. It is a long time since we have seen freedom of press and real journalism.

Papers print what their sponsors want them to print. When I worked in PR I did projects on behalf of the governments/kingdoms of Bahrain (to promote it as a alternative to Dubai), Turkey (to lobby and gain entry to the EU) and several others I cannot mention

Success was rated by how many newspaper artciles were ran about the things they wanted to communicate. This influence was then measured by talking to those people they wanted to influence e.g. politicians, gov policy makers and asking what their opinion was about their country/company etc

Simply enough, a good PR campaign made people believe what they read in the paper about the country/company. The newspaper readers are unaware that the articles are simply planted there. Most newspaper articles is simply advertising, either promoting a particular product or a way of thinking. The anti-Euro stories you see in certain newspapers are actually sponsored to be saying these measures by businessmen who want the Euro to fail for monetry reasons.

The latin countries have never really got involved in PR and are suffering as a consequence. In fact, the whole free market and government lobbying economic model is an anglo-saxon invention that the Latin markets have never really been part of. Now that the BRIIC and Middle Eastern countries have also taken up this model then the latin countries are now being bullied out of it, simply because there needs to be scapegoats, the global economy is a mess.

Spain would be better off working with a Latin American socialist economic model as it suits Spanish society much better - the problem is you need to get rid of all the PP Franco (now right wing free market) sympathisers first.

Anyway, if Spain does fall, it will simply lead to domino effect. My feeling is that the rest of Western Europe and the US would then follow - and we would hopefully reach a point where a new economic model would need to be constructed

There, a lesson on the influence of communication on economics for you

Fredbargate

Thank you CM I now know why I had so many problems with GT.
They told me they were accountants.