Leither

Totally agree on that one. I can just imagine some silly soldier sticking his rifle in a banker's face only for the banker to laugh and say "Go away. You have no standing in modern Spanish society. It's us bankers who run the country nowadays" .

It seems to have worked everywhere else where the military have tried to take over.

agoreira

I see Rajoy still has time to bang on about Gib though, you'd think he'd have more important things to worry about.
http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/1598...r-reino-unido/
I was surprised how many in the thread at the end actually thought that Gib would be mad to want to join Spain, and that Gib clearly had no interest in ever becoming Spanish.

HBG

The UK has got Scotland, Germany has Bavaria, Italy has its north, and Spain has Catalunya, I won't bother with the rest of the world but most countries have regions that want to break away from central government for a host of reasons.

Our map drawers from years ago got it wrong many times, they put together people that didn't belong together, and didn't want to be together.

I'm trying to think of a recent example where a country was split, perhaps Czechoslovakia fits the bill and that separation seems to have worked, under the umbrella of the EU.

The trouble with Catalunya is the re-drawing of a map over which a bloody civil war has already been fought, and recently.

Fredbargate

Still banging on about bilateral talks, Gibraltarians being excluded from the talks, how very democratic

Also the Treaty of Utrecht (1713), Gibraltar has many times asked Spain to go to court over the treaty and get a definitive answer. Spain always replies that in doing so it would mean that they recognise Gib as a country, which they do not. When the real answer is that the treaty would not hold up in court to Spain's way of thinking.

Nice to see some of the comments are on Gib's side.

4) ¿no tendrian que ser los habitantesde gibraltar lo que decidieran si quieren ser ingleses o Españoles?

8) Gibraltar siempre a servido a marear la perdiz cuando hemos tenido problemas.en España

10) VIVA GIBRALTAR LIBRE!!!

agoreira

I think at least a few have got the message! Plus always liked the expression marear la perdiz

Por cierto Gibraltar ya pasó por dos referéndum (Franco y Aznar) para volver a ser Española resultados el 99% y el 98% a favor de quedarse colonia Inglés !!!
Lo unico que me parece claro es que los gibraltareños no quieren ser españoles

billgates

Come on guys, this is a British Expats forum where the language is English. Some of us have only lived in Spain for seven or eight years so haven't had chance to pick up on the language yet.

If you really must show off by posting in Spanish then at least give us an English translation as well.

Fredbargate

The reason for posting in Spanish is that many times the phrases don't translate too well.

But here it is courtesy of Google

4) Should not it be the habitantes de gibraltar to decide whether they want to be British or Spanish?

8) Gibraltar served always beating around the bush when we had problemas.en Spain

10) GIBRALTAR LIVE FREE!

marear la perdiz beating around the bush


Por cierto Gibraltar ya pasó por dos referéndum (Franco y Aznar) para volver a ser Española resultados el 99% y el 98% a favor de quedarse colonia Inglés !!!
Lo unico que me parece claro es que los gibraltareños no quieren ser españoles

Incidentally Gibraltar and went through two referendums (Franco and Aznar) Spanish for re results 99% and 98% in favor of remaining English colony!
The only thing that seems clear is that the people of Gibraltar do not want to be Spanish

agoreira

Seven or eight years without speaking Spanish? The choice is yours of course, personally I'd be ashamed if I couldn't hold a good conversation in the language after that time, wherever I was.

billgates

I agree and I am

agoreira

Another popular decision with Spain, http://www.20minutos.es/noticia/1604...o-provisional/

Domino

got hit by a good one on Sunday when paying for 2 drinks
"DOCHENTA" says the guy

didnt catch me out, been here 9 months, heard that one before
so gave him the DOS OCHENTA he wanted.

its not the learning of the Spanish words its the learning of the saying by listening carefully as like the English, Scots, Welsh we all have little slang ways of saying things.

Spain disintegrating ? Well the UK appears to be doing the same, but in this case it is the rich Catalans not wanting to support the poorer rest of the country.

davidinspain

I think it's more a case of Spain integrating.The idea that the Euro could thrive with counties setting their own taxes and overseeing their own banking structures was barmy,the Euro could only ever be as strong as it's economically weakest member.Spain will be absorbed into the Greater German Europe with more and more of it's taxes and laws being decided in the Bundeskanzleramt .

cricketman

Taxes are already higher in Spain than in Germany Certainly they are for high earners

And this has nothing to do with the weakness of the Euro, otherwise the UK and US wouldnt be in trouble

Spain is hindered by the Euro simply because they cant inflate their currency to reduce their debts

davidinspain

The US and UK aren't in trouble?

EsuriJohn

Not sure about the US but UK IS!