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Some help please :-)
Hi everyone.
I have recently moved to the marbella area and in the process of setting up a office in Estepona! I went to get my nie number the other day and after all the queuing etc for 3 hours I got told to go to Estepona police station not Marbella. When I apply for the ni which Is paid for already and should just be able to hand into Estepona station do I need to apply separately for residency? Do I need residency? I am using skype for my personal calls is this the best thing to do? The complex I am on arranged Internet for me with globatel but it is really slow when 2 computers are using the Internet, can anybody recommend a better company to use for internet? I brought a sky box out with me from the uk and there is a communal dish where I live but it does not work does anyone have a number they can recommend for somebody to come and get it up and running for me? I have been told I need my card chipped is this correct? Mobile phones I got a pay as you go on yoigo but it doesn't have Internet, what is the best network to go with to be able to get Internet on my phone or is it difficult to get a Spanish contract? I am also in need of a lot of carpet asap and any other office furniture if anyone has any to sell? How difficult is it to get staff out here it is not in a boiler room it is for incoming customer service so no sales involved and they must have a nice pleasant voice, where would I look for staff? If you can help with any of my questions i would be very grateful. Thank you. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by simonbentley
(Post 9308059)
Hi everyone.
I have recently moved to the marbella area and in the process of setting up a office in Estepona! I went to get my nie number the other day and after all the queuing etc for 3 hours I got told to go to Estepona police station not Marbella. When I apply for the ni which Is paid for already and should just be able to hand into Estepona station do I need to apply separately for residency? Do I need residency? I am using skype for my personal calls is this the best thing to do? The complex I am on arranged Internet for me with globatel but it is really slow when 2 computers are using the Internet, can anybody recommend a better company to use for internet? I brought a sky box out with me from the uk and there is a communal dish where I live but it does not work does anyone have a number they can recommend for somebody to come and get it up and running for me? I have been told I need my card chipped is this correct? Mobile phones I got a pay as you go on yoigo but it doesn't have Internet, what is the best network to go with to be able to get Internet on my phone or is it difficult to get a Spanish contract? I am also in need of a lot of carpet asap and any other office furniture if anyone has any to sell? How difficult is it to get staff out here it is not in a boiler room it is for incoming customer service so no sales involved and they must have a nice pleasant voice, where would I look for staff? If you can help with any of my questions i would be very grateful. Thank you. As regards to the Sky box, you need to change the frequency. Ours is set to 12.129. Staff wise, I am desperate for a job but you are a bit far away. Lol. Best of luck in your venture. Andy |
Re: Some help please :-)
Hello Simon & welcome.
Visit a Vodafone shop for your mobile internet (IMO) as they offer a fast service in your area. The new NIE is all you need. Ask your neighbors about who is the best Sat Man for your area as they are likely to know, your card needs no chips / vinegar or anything else for that matter (I assume that it worked in the UK) When you can use the PM facility (after you have made a few posts) send me one about the staff issue. Or call me on 618 166 four one nine. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by simonbentley
(Post 9308059)
I brought a sky box out with me from the uk and there is a communal dish where I live but it does not work does anyone have a number they can recommend for somebody to come and get it up and running for me? I have been told I need my card chipped is this correct?
Are you sure you are connected tot he distribution system for this dish? Some community systems pipe the channels down using different frequencies, so a Sky box will not work. Sometimes, you may have to hlp the Sky box boot up. This is beacause the initial frequency the sky bxo looks at for its boot information can be weak in certain areas of spain at certain times of the day. You can change this "boot" frequency, to help the box boot up. (you can use a range of frequencies - there is really no "best" one to use.) See Sky Default transponder frequency settings for how to do this (there is even a video showin gyou how to do it!) But quickly, services, 4, 0, 1, select, 2, input frequency, save settings, sky, date and time appear, info banner populates, channels there) |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by playamonte
(Post 9308270)
Hello Simon & welcome.
Visit a Vodafone shop for your mobile internet (IMO) as they offer a fast service in your area. The new NIE is all you need. Ask your neighbors about who is the best Sat Man for your area as they are likely to know, your card needs no chips / vinegar or anything else for that matter (I assume that it worked in the UK) When you can use the PM facility (after you have made a few posts) send me one about the staff issue. Or call me on 618 166 four one nine. It all depends how long he will be in Spain each year surely? |
Re: Some help please :-)
QUOTE When I apply for the NIE which Is paid for already and should just be able to hand into Estepona station do I need to apply separately for residency?
Do I need residency? If you are in (going to be in) Spain for 3 months you need Residencia. If you have not got your NIE then you might as well apply for Residencia. The number will be the same which ever way you do it, it is the same office for the applications and you will only need to queue once. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by snikpoh
(Post 9308356)
Why does he only need NIE and not the residencia as well?
Autonomos were never required to take residencia, has that changed? |
Re: Some help please :-)
I think you are playing at being a business man.
Nothing personal, I was young once. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by simonbentley
(Post 9308059)
I am also in need of a lot of carpet asap and any other office furniture if anyone has any to sell? How difficult is it to get staff out here it is not in a boiler room it is for incoming customer service so no sales involved and they must have a nice pleasant voice, where would I look for staff? As for employing people, advertise in the Surinenglish http://www.myservicesdirectory.com/C...ations-vacant/ You'll probably be flooded with applicants Jo xxx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by whitelinen
(Post 9308434)
Autonomos were never required to take residencia, has that changed?
everyone who lives here should sign the Residents list though - employed, self-employed, pensioner - whatever |
Re: Some help please :-)
For the landlin phone we use Vonage and have done for the last 2 years. I found the call quality better than Skype and there's no need for your computer to be on. Has been absolutely reliable in that time and had no failures that were'nt due to the Internet connection going down.
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Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308528)
everyone who lives here should sign the Residents list though - employed, self-employed, pensioner - whatever
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Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308528)
there's no such thing as Residencia in the old sense for a few years now, although some people will still have their old Residencia cards until they expire
everyone who lives here should sign the Residents list though - employed, self-employed, pensioner - whatever (I have never heard about 'autonomo' (self employed )being in exclude so I cannot comment either way. I will ask next week when I am working at the National Police Station). "signing on the residents list.' I assume you are referring to the Padron. That is the list of residents maintained by the town hall. It is a requirement for people living in a municipality to register; it has nothing to do with residencia. (http://ukinspain.fco.gov.uk/en/help-...n-spain/padron) |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308598)
Sorry but the Residencia is alive and well, it is only that the photo card has been replaced by a sheet of paper, the certificate (on 2nd April 2007 as I remember). It is still residencia and is still a requirement if one is physically in Spain for 3 months without a break.
(I have never heard about 'autonomo' (self employed )being in exclude so I cannot comment either way. I will ask next week when I am working at the National Police Station). "signing on the residents list.' I assume you are referring to the Padron. That is the list of residents maintained by the town hall. It is a requirement for people living in a municipality to register; it has nothing to do with residencia. (http://ukinspain.fco.gov.uk/en/help-...n-spain/padron) I'm not talking about empadronamiento that's totally different - everyone foreign or not has to do that we have to apply for Certificado de registro como ciudadano de la Unión (Certificate of registration as a citizen of the Union) using one of these http://www.mir.es/SGACAVT/modelos/ex...anje/ex_16.pdf as you well know:rolleyes: what I said was there's no such thing as Residencia in the old sense |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308598)
(I have never heard about 'autonomo' (self employed )being in exclude so I cannot comment either way. I will ask next week when I am working at the National Police Station).
Google it or buy a David Hampshire living and working in Spain book The current Spanish law states any individual intending to remain in Spain longer than 183 days in any one period throughout the calendar year, who is not working and does not intend to work, should apply for a Residencia. Anyone legally working, either as an employee or in a self-employed capacity, no longer need apply for a Residencia. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308640)
no I'm not
I'm not talking about empadronamiento that's totally different - everyone foreign or not has to do that we have to apply for Certificado de registro como ciudadano de la Unión Certificate of registration as a citizen of the Union) using one of these http://www.mir.es/SGACAVT/modelos/ex...anje/ex_16.pdf as you well know:rolleyes: what I said was For the sake of clarity: The residencia is still the same as it was. The only thing which changed is that it is now a Certificate (which is not proof of ID nor nationality) instead of a photo card which was a legal ID but which ceased to be issued, on applications made as from 2.4.07. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by twistedmelon
(Post 9308491)
I think you are playing at being a business man.
Nothing personal, I was young once. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308661)
Sorry but you are confusing me by talking about "signing on the residents list." If not the padron then I have no idea what you mean. You refer to the residencia separately, so I assume you do not mean it is that, therefore, I should be grateful if you would tell me what you are referring to (no rolling eyes needed unless you find it necessary).
For the sake of clarity: The residencia is still the same as it was. The only thing which changed is that it is now a Certificate (which is not proof of ID nor nationality) instead of a photo card which was a legal ID but which ceased to be issued, on applications made as from 2.4.07. not all Brits (can't speak for other nationalities) HAD TO get Residencia if living here but we DO all have to sign for Certificado de registro como ciudadano de la Unión (Certificate of registration as a citizen of the Union) if living here |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308755)
no it's not the same
not all Brits (can't speak for other nationalities) HAD TO get Residencia if living here but we DO all have to sign for Certificado de registro como ciudadano de la Unión (Certificate of registration as a citizen of the Union) if living here Lynnxa, please see my private email. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308771)
Lynnxa, please see my private email.
you are wrong in saying that it is the same it isn't even called residencia now - it's called what I said in my last post & WE (my family) definitely didn't HAVE to have it until the law changed in 2007 only non EU citizens now have to apply for residencia EU citizens don't have to apply for anything - simply register that we live here - which is why I refer to it as 'signing the residents list' because that is effectively what we are doing - signing a register & getting a bit of paper proving that we have done so - & we all HAVE to do it if we live here |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by Rotor
(Post 9308741)
So why do you think that? His post has many normal questions about setting up an office in Spain:confused:
Have you read his previous posts?????? I was curious about the need for carpets in an office (or anywhere else??) which seems a bit strange dont you think?? Jo xxx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308771)
Lynnxa, please see my private email.
Jo xx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by jojojojojo
(Post 9308797)
I'm not sure whats you are talking about, all I do know is that Lynnxa has been living in Spain for many years, totally immersed in her town and culture, totally fluent and working! If she were to tell me that the sky was tartan here, then its tartan!! lol ;)
Jo xx it's blue:lol: today...................... |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308778)
I have replied to your PM
you are wrong in saying that it is the same it isn't even called residencia now - it's called what I said in my last post & WE (my family) definitely didn't HAVE to have it until the law changed in 2007 only non EU citizens now have to apply for residencia EU citizens don't have to apply for anything - simply register that we live here - which is why I refer to it as 'signing the residents list' because that is effectively what we are doing - signing a register & getting a bit of paper proving that we have done so - & we all HAVE to do it if we live here |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by jojojojojo
(Post 9308797)
I'm not sure whats you are talking about, all I do know is that Lynnxa has been living in Spain for many years, totally immersed in her town and culture, totally fluent and working! If she were to tell me that the sky was tartan here, then its tartan!! lol ;)
Jo xx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308831)
I don't wish this to become a public discussion. I have sent you a private reply.
This is a public forum and I for one would be grateful if you would not send me any more private messages. |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308807)
now you know it's not tartan jojo;)
it's blue:lol: today...................... If you tell me its blue, then its blue LOLOLOL It wasnt this morning here, it was grey - its brightened up beautifully now tho Jo xxx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308834)
Sorry Jo, It was to avoid a disagreement in public that I choose to contact Lynn by private email, so that we can resolve our different understandings and thus not confuse people. I have done so again.
public disagreement is fine if it gets it resolved the term 'residencia' is confusing - simply because the 'new' system is different & has a different purpose & name |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308831)
I don't wish this to become a public discussion. I have sent you a private reply.
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Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 9308846)
that's lynnxa btw
public disagreement is fine if it gets it resolved the term 'residencia' is confusing - simply because the 'new' system is different & has a different purpose & name |
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Could I just also point out that they do things very differently in different areas....... on different days of the week! Where I live, you get an NIE number and a residencia on the same form, BUT, if you dont have the residencia, just the NIE then its only valid for three months and you must return to renew (and pay) for it! Theres also a thing to sign if you're a foreigner and lets not forget the padron - I think???
BUT I STRESS ALL AREAS SEEM TO BE DIFFERENT If, as the OP, you are starting your own business you need to declare yourself automono and have an NIF number????????????????????? thats my understanding of it all!? Right or wrong, I've no idea Jo xxx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308831)
I don't wish this to become a public discussion. I have sent you a private reply.
I defy anyone living in Spain to say that they know the whole system inside out because so many things vary from area to area. I know that there is legislation which dictates certain things but it is still down to the people in the various departments to make their own interpretation of the legislation. Rosemary |
Re: Some help please :-)
...... and also just one other thing, back to the original post, can you get mobiles in Spain without an NIE number???
Jo xxxx |
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Originally Posted by jojojojojo
(Post 9308889)
...... and also just one other thing, back to the original post, can you get mobiles in Spain without an NIE number???
Jo xxxx Rosemary |
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Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 9308894)
I am not totally sure but I do not think so. Even the BIC ones have to be properly registered with Orange and they need all your details to do this.
Rosemary I understand that it is an anti-terrorist measure ( Terrorists don't know they can use the internet ! ) |
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Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308899)
Whilst all pay as you go mobiles in Spain must be registered, I think one needs to only prove their identity and thus a passport is probably sufficient.
I understand that it is an anti-terrorist measure ( Terrorists don't know they can use the internet ! ) They wanted my name, my address, my passport, NIE number (with relevant photocopies of course) and the colour of my knickers when I got my last one! Jo xxx |
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Apologies if what I said was wrong !
I thought you did not know about the NIE requirement and that was why you asked, "can you get mobiles in Spain without an NIE number??? |
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Originally Posted by jojojojojo
(Post 9308889)
...... and also just one other thing, back to the original post, can you get mobiles in Spain without an NIE number???
Jo xxxx |
Re: Some help please :-)
Originally Posted by JulianWard
(Post 9308899)
Whilst all pay as you go mobiles in Spain must be registered, I think one needs to only prove their identity and thus a passport is probably sufficient.
I understand that it is an anti-terrorist measure ( Terrorists don't know they can use the internet ! ) Rosemary |
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Originally Posted by The Oddities
(Post 9308922)
No, that is incorrect, well it is different from our experience when we had to register ours. We had to provide passport, NIE and Residencia Certificate for registration.
Rosemary OH got me a new phone last year I told him he'd need everything in triplicate plus show his knickers like jojo had to;) he of course left home with none of it - showed his driving licence & that credit card sized laminated copy of his passport that he carries - & got a phone no problem logically they should need everything - but at the movistar shop here, they didn't ask for it |
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