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Old Jan 12th 2010 | 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by Harry Bohun
Same old story here - always struggled to make ends meet, especially under the Tories and then what they had put aside in pensions was taxed to bits by Labour.

Houses are usually the last to get pennies spent on them I should imagine, certainly was the case here. We had a new set of windows put in last summer which cost about 5k but it has resulted in half the house having 10 degree warmer air than the other. But condenser gas boilers are so expensive now its been cheaper to put wood burners in..

The main problem we have is the age of the house, as I mentioned before, the chimneys and lack of any wall insulation - its bare brick beneath the plaster!

1950's init.

Re: the cold winters in Spain. I'm not a numpty, I know all about Spain's climates, history, topography, cultural variety etc. And I can tell you with absolute certainty it gets colder in the UK in winter.

Leon right now according to google weather is 8c with a low of 0, tomorrow 4c with a low of -4. That's not as cold as it is here now in Derby, which is not on a mountain range. :P

But yeah, cold is COLD. Wherever.
That's debatable...... Madrid and many other areas of Spain do get much, much colder than the UK. I don't understand your point about quoting the temerature in one place for one day.
Originally Posted by agoreira
Of course you can't. You cannot tell me that everywhere in Spain is warmer than everywhere in UK, that's an absolute nonsense. I live on the west coast of UK, yards from the sea, and we have not seen anything like the weather that you will have had, as I look out the window there's no snow, no ice to be seen anywhere. You might be able to speak for your area, but no way can you speak for the whole of the UK and Spain, many parts of Spain experience far colder temps than we ever get here. Places like Madrid regularly get temps far lower than we ever do.
Agreed.
Originally Posted by cricketman
You're just rambling, what is the point in saying Spain on average is warmer than the UK on average??

And the whole North being colder thing is a huge generalisation too. You've only got to remember geography at school.

Spain has 5 different climates in the country which is why the weather is so disperse - Mediterranean, Temperate, Continental, Mountaneous and one other I cant remember

Yes Galicia and Asturias has the same climate as the UK (temperate I think). That has nothing in common with the continental climate in Madrid or the Mediterranean climate of Barcelona
and again.....agreed.
 
Old Jan 12th 2010 | 6:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Harry Bohun
Hmm. Geographical positioning, proximity to Atlantic and North Sea weather fronts, siberian winds, equator etc. Its all kinda scientific - we are further north on the axis and so its gonna be colder and darker. Barring unusual weather patterns in the Atlantic or freak cold snaps (high low pressure etc), the UK is always going to enjoy more wet and cold weather than 80% of Spain.

The difference is not in the duration of or voracity of the weather, its in the temperatures. What is freezing here might be a few degrees above there and relatively that makes all the difference to how cold it actually feels on the ground, not least the wind chill!

You can probably find any single place in Spain that is colder than any single place in the UK, but the mean average national temperatures over the winter months is nowhere near as cold in Spain, nor is the level of precipitation, water/ice etc. even if you factor in the mitigating harsher northern climates and elevation above sea level et al.

Wales, Scotland, most of central and northern England and the Isles are simply much colder, more of the time.

Now if we were arguing about France it'd be close. Probably say France is colder this time of year! Especially Aquitaine, Poitiers, Brittany etc. The same weather front/s usually come in over and cover most of Galicia, Asturias and Navarre of course.

BTW where abouts are you on the coast? I should be there not here!
have a look at these photos from all over spain

I particularly like this iced street lamp!
 
Old Jan 12th 2010 | 7:00 pm
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Hehe ok. I give up!
 
Old Jan 12th 2010 | 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Harry Bohun
Hehe ok. I give up!
 
Old Feb 15th 2010 | 5:33 pm
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More bloody snow yesterday and they say we´re getting more this week......do you know what I like about Spain?...........the sun............where is it?
 
Old Feb 15th 2010 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Madridboy
More bloody snow yesterday and they say we´re getting more this week......do you know what I like about Spain?...........the sun............where is it?
When I get the ark built, I shall go looking for it.

Nothing but rain here, loads of it. They have had to get the bulldozers in and dig out the arroyos before the place floods.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 3:21 am
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When I get the ark built, I shall go looking for it.

Nothing but rain here, loads of it. They have had to get the bulldozers in and dig out the arroyos before the place floods.
The road near us was shut this morning by a landslide for a while.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by jdr
The road near us was shut this morning by a landslide for a while.
We should have a bad weather photo thread. Did anyone see the landslide in Italy on the news toady?
 
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Originally Posted by Madridboy
We should have a bad weather photo thread. Did anyone see the landslide in Italy on the news toady?
Slightly worse than ours.

We don`t know what snow is. HERE

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Old Feb 16th 2010 | 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by jdr
The road near us was shut this morning by a landslide for a while.
Well, from where we are, Spain is the poster child for erosion. I have never seen so many rain lubricated slips, and classic erosion patterns in my life.
 
Old Feb 17th 2010 | 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Well, from where we are, Spain is the poster child for erosion. I have never seen so many rain lubricated slips, and classic erosion patterns in my life.
Bil you sound like an expert on this did you see the one in Italy yesterday we watched it on the midday Portuguese news but could not find it on the BBC web page it looked a big one and pretty nasty although did not say anyopne was injured.
 
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Bil you sound like an expert on this did you see the one in Italy yesterday we watched it on the midday Portuguese news but could not find it on the BBC web page it looked a big one and pretty nasty although did not say anyopne was injured.
No, no expertise other than school geography, observation and the like.

You get classic examples where stock has worn a path across a sloping field, then the rain follows that as the shortest path, eating into it as it flows. Pretty soon there's a baby arroyo growing across the field.... and so it goes.

The main road from Vejer to Chiclana goes thru a number of cuts, and due to their somewhat steep angles, these habitually slip as soon at the soil becomes saturated.

A friend down the road has lost 10 metres off the end of his garden in the last two winters, sometimes losing a metre in a single night. The arroyo that does it has gone from a max of two metres deep to five or six, widening as it gets deeper.
 

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