Fredbargate

That will be the problem

jojojojojo

I cant see it happening in the bars around me - we're in the campo and they take very little notice of European rulings - or any other rules come to that??!

Jo xxx

rugbymatt

Yay! About bloody time too... lets hope this filthy habit is finally put to bed, any twat who thinks sucking carcinogenic fumes into their lungs is cool kind of needs to be taken out of the gene pool anyway...

JnK

Calm down dear remember your blood pressure

rugbymatt

How can I forget it? All these years of passive smoking in pubs has given me high blood pressure.

jojojojojo

There are far more dangerous filthy habits that Brussels should be concentrating on dont you think??? What surprises me is the number of elderly smokers who like to go to a bar and have a ciggie and a drink - in Spain, some of these old chaps have been toddling along to the bar for years. In the streets, cafes, you see lots of elderly folk puffing away! surely that in itself is a sign as to how bad smoking is??? NOT! surely they'd all be dead if smoking kills.

I know so many people who have or who have died from cancer - they werent all smokers. I also know lots of people who havent got cancer and they're not all non smokers.

I agree its not a pleasant habit, but freedom of choice is being taken away, not only from the people, but the bar owners, which isnt right in a democracy

Theres a hidden agenda somewhere in all this!

Jo xxx

rugbymatt

I love the way that despite the obvious SCIENTIFIC evidence showing how bad smoking is you defiantly defend the industry... its quite sweet Jo.

Fredbargate

Time for a change of avatar Matt

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...=1600&bih=1006

jojojojojo

Yes well I worked in the scientific industry, I know how it works!! Correlation! Smoking "MAY" cause cancer and heart disease, so every person who dies from those illnesses who happens a smoker becomes a statistic and dies thru smoking! No real proof, they just tick the box and hey presto - PROOF!

As the so called scientists I worked with used, "we could prove scientifically that putting umbrellas up causes it to rain!"

Jo xxx

rugbymatt

Even more reason to hate the twat!

rugbymatt

So the doctor was wrong when he said my mums terminal emphysema was because of her smoking? I'll let her know, it will be comforting to her... oh and she is not the only person I know with emphysema caused by smoking... or so they say.

JnK

... and probably liver disease too then!!!

rugbymatt

I don't partake... tee total you know.

JnK

[QUOTE=jojojojojo;8930282]There are far more dangerous filthy habits that Brussels should be concentrating on dont you think??? What surprises me is the number of elderly smokers who like to go to a bar and have a ciggie and a drink - in Spain, some of these old chaps have been toddling along to the bar for years. In the streets, cafes, you see lots of elderly folk puffing away! surely that in itself is a sign as to how bad smoking is??? NOT! surely they'd all be dead if smoking kills.

I know so many people who have or who have died from cancer - they werent all smokers. I also know lots of people who havent got cancer and they're not all non smokers.

I agree its not a pleasant habit, but freedom of choice is being taken away, not only from the people, but the bar owners, which isnt right in a democracy

My mum was an alcoholic smoker and neither of those things killed her ... and she lived to 77, developed skin cancer (sun-related not smoke or alcohol), fell and broke her hip, and basically killed herself by refusing treatment (and who could blame her). So I agree Jo, there are far worse things happening all over the world to get uptight about.

JnK

I think she's defending the right to freedom of choice and speech, just like you are exercising yours now.