Smoking ban AGAIN!!!
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I know.. I remember when they used to do a Butchers Delight, it was a platter of just about every cut of meat you could find with onion rings, tomatoes, mushrooms and game chips and if you could finish it you could have it for nothing... I'm told no one ever did.
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#185
The tightening of drink driving laws certainly did play a huge part in rural bars closing and I, as many, saw it first hand when in the UK. It's easy to blame the supermarkets for the decline in the "pub trade" but when this started to happen many bars chose to raise their prices to compensate for the lack of customers which shot themselves in the foot.
Also many of the brewerys that own/owned pubs were and still are extremely greedy and make it almost impossible for the landlord/landlay to make a profit, I know a family that took over a large restaurant type pub and were having a nightmare trying to make a living out of it as the brewery wanted a cut on literalt everything they sold on top of the rent. More often than not it's greed that closes bars.
Also many of the brewerys that own/owned pubs were and still are extremely greedy and make it almost impossible for the landlord/landlay to make a profit, I know a family that took over a large restaurant type pub and were having a nightmare trying to make a living out of it as the brewery wanted a cut on literalt everything they sold on top of the rent. More often than not it's greed that closes bars.
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Just reading this, and it says about 30 pubs a week are closing, but there are a record number of outlets with a licence to sell alcohol. No mention of smoking ban, they put the blame squarely on these other outlets.
The pub industry blamed the decline on the recession, and the availability of cheap alcohol.
The pub industry blamed the decline on the recession, and the availability of cheap alcohol.
#188
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Because if you're too comfortable or have a table to place your drink you're not going to drink as quick or as often as someone who is stood holding their pint thinking what to do with it and continualy sipping at it.
#189
Hahahahahaha - i like ya avi Matt - has Val seen it yet hahahahahahaha xxx
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Had to pop back to the hospital this afternoon and despite there being a new law prohibiting smoking from outside the entrance to the hospitals there were 3 medical staff and the security guard all stood there smoking............nice to see the Spanish being Spanish lol.
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Had to pop back to the hospital this afternoon and despite there being a new law prohibiting smoking from outside the entrance to the hospitals there were 3 medical staff and the security guard all stood there smoking............nice to see the Spanish being Spanish lol.
Mind you, the law doesn't come into effect until Jan 2nd 2011. 
La nueva ley antitabaco prohibirá fumar en el exterior de los hospitales. La nueva ley entrará en vigor el 2 de enero.
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They are not breaking any law it doesn´t come into effect until January.
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I was talking to an English publican the other day who’s got two pubs here in Spain, both with Se Vende signs in the windows, they’re both large premises and freehold. He’s an experienced guy and is not bothered by the smoking ban as he has ample free space to cater for everyone, smokers, dogs, junkies, karaoke lovers, the lot.
His takings are down by two-thirds since the recession started in 2007. Unlike most other foreign publicans here in Spain, he’s got the accounts to prove it. Like any other good business man he’s made savings wherever possible and works like a trojan himself.
But he’s given up, even with the low interest rates he has worked out that he will earn more from his money if he just leaves it in the bank. I attended his opening night ten years ago and he’s a completely different man now, to top it all his wife has left him as well. The pub trade is not conducive to a happy family life.
(He doesn’t smoke or drink).
His takings are down by two-thirds since the recession started in 2007. Unlike most other foreign publicans here in Spain, he’s got the accounts to prove it. Like any other good business man he’s made savings wherever possible and works like a trojan himself.
But he’s given up, even with the low interest rates he has worked out that he will earn more from his money if he just leaves it in the bank. I attended his opening night ten years ago and he’s a completely different man now, to top it all his wife has left him as well. The pub trade is not conducive to a happy family life.
(He doesn’t smoke or drink).
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I was talking to an English publican the other day who’s got two pubs here in Spain, both with Se Vende signs in the windows, they’re both large premises and freehold. He’s an experienced guy and is not bothered by the smoking ban as he has ample free space to cater for everyone, smokers, dogs, junkies, karaoke lovers, the lot.
His takings are down by two-thirds since the recession started in 2007. Unlike most other foreign publicans here in Spain, he’s got the accounts to prove it. Like any other good business man he’s made savings wherever possible and works like a trojan himself.
But he’s given up, even with the low interest rates he has worked out that he will earn more from his money if he just leaves it in the bank. I attended his opening night ten years ago and he’s a completely different man now, to top it all his wife has left him as well. The pub trade is not conducive to a happy family life.
(He doesn’t smoke or drink).
His takings are down by two-thirds since the recession started in 2007. Unlike most other foreign publicans here in Spain, he’s got the accounts to prove it. Like any other good business man he’s made savings wherever possible and works like a trojan himself.
But he’s given up, even with the low interest rates he has worked out that he will earn more from his money if he just leaves it in the bank. I attended his opening night ten years ago and he’s a completely different man now, to top it all his wife has left him as well. The pub trade is not conducive to a happy family life.
(He doesn’t smoke or drink).
Joking aside, a bad situation to be in.



