Like I said, strange as it might seem to you, it had never entered my mind until today after I read something else on here, I don't know how Spain compares to UK in the education system, it's that simple, and at the moment I only have your opinion, which is, that it is very similar, thank you for that.

This lack of respect for authority, many put down to lack of discipline in Schools. I wouldn't know if this feeling was the same in Spain as well.

I may not have worded my op as well as I could have but I'm sure most will get the gest of it.

I actually find the youth in Spain far more polite and that also makes me wonder why, what do they do differently.

As I am new to Siesta Time, please be gentle with me From 1 who's foot is still in the UK pond, but also have a new property in Spain, I believe that every country has it's problems with their youth, it is not down solely to how they are educated or how they are disciplined whilst being educated. It is a combination of many factors including social background, parental input, emotional stability etc. I am fortunate enough to live in an area with a good school, nice kids, parents who care about their kids behaviour etc. and dare I say mostly nice youths and young adults. I bet your bottom dollar though that there are many parents here in the UK that would disagree, a lot depends on the area you live in, but please dont think it is all doom and gloom back here in blighty as in all Countries there is good and bad. When it comes to discipline there is surely a collective responsibilty to fix the problem.

Gosh I'm so sorry if I come across as being nasty, it's not intentional.

Yes I guess TV and the press like to only show the worst side of things.

I really do find Spanish youth a pleasure to be with. An example, I was in a bar having a drink one evening, which is unusual for me, and a few teens were playing on a football machine thing, when their other pals turned up they threw their arms around them and hugged them, these were young men maybe 18 or 19, Now I have Never seen that in the UK.

The first primary school my daughter went to in Spain (2009) dealt with bad children in the class by locking them in a cupboard.Each class had one of these cupboards which we called chokeys(from the film Matilda if anyone has seen it).

They were left for about 10mins banging and screaming while the teacher carried on with the class.

I dont think that would occur in the UK and I dont know if it worked cos according to my daughter the chokeys were always busy.

My daughters current school still has some old ways of managing bad behaviour.For example, my daughter is a very picky eater and has never come round to enjoying spanish school dinners which at her school a good 75% of the time is fish.

She now always sits in a naughty corner in the comedor cos she dosent eat much and alot of the time they deny her bread and even water if she dosent try the first plate.

She only stays cos we think its important for her to be in the playground socialising and learning the lingo which really has helped. And believe it or not she likes it in her corner!!!!!!

Home dinners will be on the agenda this year as her fluency is coming along in leaps and bounds.

But the spanish teachers I have got to know are lovely.They love kisses and cuddles even with us parents. Now, Id like to see that in the UK.They would be banged up.

Not really a straight answer to your question but interesting I think all the same.

And I didnt really see what was wrong with your question either.

Fussy eating is a crime in Spain

So is not giving someone a kiss or a cuddle from time to time!

I see Spanish people as very socially confident and I think frequent physical contact has a lot to do with that.

I didnt for one minute think you were being nasty but having read a lot of different threads some of the comments can quickly have the thread degenerating into a mass squabble lol very amusing to the reader, if not to the poor poster on the receiving end, I was only asking not to be shot down in flames by anyone thats all, I am a gentle soul ! Do any posters ever meet up or do they just wind each other from a distance lol
As for kisses and cuddles what a joy it would be to be able to do that here, I work in a nursery school so the children need affection at such a young age but we are discouraged to do so once they get to 2 yrs old, apparantly it is to help instill independance, in a 2 yr old, for pitys sake!!
In my sons school we had about 3 disruptive kids and there was many a time dare I suggest that the naughty cupboard would have been fit to burst. I dont know how our schoolhead managed it but the naughty have moved to other schools

Or moronic answers

Phew Thanks, take a look at some members "other posts" you'll see quite often all they ever post is critisism.

Whats eating you?

I admit the answer may have been a bit sharp, but not moronic, as the question was.

Do people seriously think that coproral punishment is still allowed in Spain and has to ask?

And dont people realise that inner city shcools have the same problems with pupils as their equivalent in the UK?

Just because the local little village school seems to have polite pupils do people thing that all schools are the same. Weapons are found in schools in Spain as in the UK.

There are thousands of children in Spanish schools who are being bullied, and at least one girl was killed by her Spanish classmates.

Most of the posters on here I suppose have never been near these "violent schools" where the teachers are terrorised, either in the UK or in Spain, as I havent myself.

Common sense should tell you that the problem is world wide and the "incomers" to Spain have the priveledge of being able to chose their location, which is not alway an option for the local population in Spain and the also in the UK.

Dont people realise that Spanish parents have the same problems as British parents if they live in certain areas.
But expats tend to presume that the whole of Spain is like their little inland village, well it is not, and everyone should be able to work that out for themselves unless they are a moron......

and whats eating you?

The question was not about corporal punishment it was about different ways of disciplining in Spain and the uk.

I did mention what we used to get in my day That must have thrown you?

Spanish must be doing something right as most I meet are very well mannered unlike you.

Funnily enough, most of the English I know and knew we good at joined up thinking.........

All this is true, but will only come to those who feel part of both countries enough to have been able to form opinions by speaking to people, seeing stuff in the media, or better, at first hand.

I am sure that a good school in the UK has more in common with a good school in Spain than a good and bad school have in common in either country.

Something not entirely unrelated... I was talking to a friend a few weeks ago who is a teacher in Santander, she is an English teacher at a state school. She says in her classes there are normally only 2-3 Spanish kids, then the rest come from China, Romania, Russia, Morocco and Latin America. The Chinese kids dont even speak Spanish nevermind English.

Sounds pretty much like the situation in a lot of UK inner city schools...

JLFS may not be very diplomatic but he has made some good points. I agree with him.

Thans for that.......

I think you have done it a bit more genltly than I did, but the meaning is the same.......