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anonimouse Jan 16th 2011 3:44 am

School, differences in Spain to Uk
 
Does anybody here know the difference in our educational systems re punishments?

In the UK we used to get the cane the ruler or a clip round the earole, I don't think they get anything now in the UK for fear of teachers being threatened with court action?

I just wondered if anyone knew how the Spanish deal with badly behaved kids in school.

It could give us an indication of how Spain will be in the future, if looking at the UK is anything to go by.

bil Jan 16th 2011 3:51 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9105637)
Does anybody here know the difference in our educational systems re punishments?

In the UK we used to get the cane the ruler or a clip round the earole, I don't think they get anything now in the UK for fear of teachers being threatened with court action?

I just wondered if anyone knew how the Spanish deal with badly behaved kids in school.

It could give us an indication of how Spain will be in the future, if looking at the UK is anything to go by.

I used to get the cane. Never for an instant did it make me change my ways.

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 4:59 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9105637)
Does anybody here know the difference in our educational systems re punishments?

In the UK we used to get the cane the ruler or a clip round the earole, I don't think they get anything now in the UK for fear of teachers being threatened with court action?

I just wondered if anyone knew how the Spanish deal with badly behaved kids in school.

It could give us an indication of how Spain will be in the future, if looking at the UK is anything to go by.

The children in Spanish schools are very well behaved, because they are regulary beaten by the teachers, it doesnt matter, if they have done wrong or not? They still get beaten.

Is this a serious post, or a wind up? does the OP think that Spain has not moved on when dealing with corporal punishment when the UK has?

Have you not heard that there are loads of teachers off work will stress, the same as the UK.

Have you not heard that the teachers in Spain have the same problems with their pupils as the UK?

The innercity secondary schools in both countries have the same problems, did you not know that.

The little country schools dont have such a hard time, just like the UK.

Do you really expect that a school in a poor district in Madrid is not comparable from one in some inner London District?


The punishments you are talking about stopped in Spain too, time has changed things as regards punishment, it is not about which country, Spain or UK.:huh::huh:

anonimouse Jan 16th 2011 6:41 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 
Er if I'd have known any of these things I wouldn't have needed to ask. I thought that's what forums were for?

I was being serious, I don't know any kids or parents to ask, It hadn't even crossed my mind until I saw another thread on here that made me think, made me wonder if perhaps they hadn't moved on in that respect.

Spain verses Uk, don't know what made you mention that, if I preferd the UK I would still be living there.

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 6:57 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9106001)
Er if I'd have known any of these things I wouldn't have needed to ask. I thought that's what forums were for?

I was being serious, I don't know any kids or parents to ask, It hadn't even crossed my mind until I saw another thread on here that made me think, made me wonder if perhaps they hadn't moved on in that respect.

Spain verses Uk, don't know what made you mention that, if I preferd the UK I would still be living there.

You are asking me why I am comparing Spain to the UK, you were the one who mentioned the UK in your starting post, so why are you complaining when I answer you question:huh:

I never said that you preferred the UK, but do you honestly think that Spain would not have the same problems in schools as the UK does.

Do you really think that Spanish teachers have the whole thing sewn up and sorted when English teachers do not?

Teachers in the UK do not cane pupils because they are afraid of law suits, as you stated in your post, but because it is against the law , just like in Spain.

Do you honestly think that Spain would allow corporal punishment when the UK does not, do you really think that Spain is so backward?

anonimouse Jan 16th 2011 7:07 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9106049)
You are asking me why I am comparing Spain to the UK, you were the one who mentioned the UK in your starting post, so why are you complaining when I answer you question:huh:

I never said that you preferred the UK, but do you honestly think that Spain would not have the same problems in schools as the UK does.

Do you really think that Spanish teachers have the whole thing sewn up and sorted when English teachers do not?

Teachers in the UK do not cane pupils because they are afraid of law suits, as you stated in your post, but because it is against the law , just like in Spain.

Do you honestly think that Spain would allow corporal punishment when the UK does not, do you really think that Spain is so backward?

I don't know what part of "I didn't know· you can't understand.

Nothing wrong with the question, there's many who think discipline in schools is too slack in the Uk and that's why youth is like it is over there whether you agree with that fact or not.

I wondered how the Spanish handle it in schools.

Obviously you think you know, but unfortunately can't answer in a civil manner.

Sorry yes I did ask compared to UK, it was your reply at the bottom I didn't quite understand re' Spain, I don't even know how it is in UK schools now other than what I have been told.

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 7:15 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9106072)
I don't know what part of "I didn't know· you can't understand.

Nothing wrong with the question, there's many who think discipline in schools is too slack in the Uk and that's why youth is like it is over there whether you agree with that fact or not.

I wondered how the Spanish handle it in schools.

Obviously you think you know, but unfortunately can't answer in a civil manner.

Sometime you dont have to KNOW.........

Just try to use a little common sense about matters and the answer will be fairly obvious.

And there are those that think schools are too slack in Sopain too, it depends on the school, just like the UK

You should know that EU rules apply in Spain too, you know, we are not the Banana republic we once were.

anonimouse Jan 16th 2011 7:23 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9106089)
Sometime you dont have to KNOW.........

Just try to use a little common sense about matters and the answer will be fairly obvious.

And there are those that think schools are too slack in Sopain too, it depends on the school, just like the UK

You should know that EU rules apply in Spain too, you know, we are not the Banana republic we once were.

Ha yes Rules, :rofl:

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 7:31 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9106108)
Ha yes Rules, :rofl:


Maybe you will find some similarities with the UK

I doubt if the more enlightened members will not be too surprised by this because Spain isa part of the EU after all.

Child salavery is also banned, just in case you wish to start a thread about that?

http://www.endcorporalpunishment.org...rts/spain.html

jimenato Jan 16th 2011 7:33 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 
:confused:

This thread gets the first prize for quickest unexplainable degeneration...

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 7:40 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 9106139)
:confused:

This thread gets the first prize for quickest unexplainable degeneration...

I well I thought it was a very patronising thread........I feel it was trolling...

But maybe you have to be on ones home turf to see it............

anonimouse Jan 16th 2011 7:42 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 
Well I don't hear much good about UK schooling these days, just wondered how Spain compared. Very sorry you think it's wrong to ask.

5 posts from JLFS, all sarcastic:thumbdown:

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 7:57 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 
The sooner that people realise that Spanish people are like the British, with the same problems and worries, the better.

Instead of thinking they are a breed apart and an alien species.

If there is a drug culture in the UK it will apply to Spain, same for weapons and other social problems.

For the doubtes read on:

http://blogalejandragodoyh.bligoo.co...las-Aulas.html

I know some live in a little sun and sangria bubble, but even they must know that there are teenagers going through school and know that their future is bleak same as the UK.

So the same dismotivation in schools apply.

I dont live in Italy and never have, but common sence tells me that they will have the similar problems with the youth as Spain, and the same goes for France. You dont need to have a superbrain to work that one out.

anonimouse Jan 16th 2011 8:04 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9106220)
The sooner that people realise that Spanish people are like the British, with the same problems and worries, the better.

Instead of thinking they are a breed apart and an alien species.

If there is a drug culture in the UK it will apply to Spain, same for weapons and other social problems.

For the doubtes read on:

http://blogalejandragodoyh.bligoo.co...las-Aulas.html

I know some live in a little sun and sangria bubble, but even they must know that there are teenagers going through school and know that their future is bleak same as the UK.

So the same dismotivation in schools apply.

I dont live in Italy and never have, but common sence tells me that they will have the similar problems with the youth as Spain, and the same goes for France. You dont need to have a superbrain to work that one out.




Great let's do away with forums then and not have any discussions about it, you have your opinions and that's it. You know so much on the subject you think you can be rude to those who don't. You 're all right jack.

JLFS Jan 16th 2011 8:12 am

Re: School, differences in Spain to Uk
 

Originally Posted by anonimouse (Post 9106251)
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Great let's do away with forums then and not have any discussions about it, you have your opinions and that's it. You know so much on the subject you think you can be rude to those who don't. You 're all right jack.

I agree with having discussions, but not with moronic questions....... Could you not think that the problems with the youth, are the same as within the UK, is that such an alien concept?

If smacking children in the UK is against the law, would you not presume that it is here as well.

The UK has a drug problem, would you not expect Spain or Italy to have the same?

on "the what has changed in the last 20 years in Spain" thread, someone has just posted that the younger generation does not have the same respect for authority as they did 20 years ago, that rings a bell with me as to what the people in the UK say about their own youth.


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