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Old May 8th 2013, 7:54 am
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Good evening we have now moved from France and the differences are so enormous but another topic for another time. One thing that does get up my nose are their postal services. However we now live in Spain not France so just get on with it. However paying a premium of some 100% to post a letter to the UK is in my mind a criminal offence but of course the national system is perhaps a little problematical.

We have S1's from Newcastle covering us from France to Spain. Where please in Javea do we have to go to register the documents. We have NIE and the like and are ticking everything off the list.

We need to enrol in their health system (please) I am sure when all the bits and pieces are in place we will be happy? After 18 years in France it is a bit difficult
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Originally Posted by Gallois - lost in Spain
Good evening we have now moved from France and the differences are so enormous but another topic for another time. One thing that does get up my nose are their postal services. However we now live in Spain not France so just get on with it. However paying a premium of some 100% to post a letter to the UK is in my mind a criminal offence but of course the national system is perhaps a little problematical.

We have S1's from Newcastle covering us from France to Spain. Where please in Javea do we have to go to register the documents. We have NIE and the like and are ticking everything off the list.

We need to enrol in their health system (please) I am sure when all the bits and pieces are in place we will be happy? After 18 years in France it is a bit difficult
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We have just done this. Are you pensioners? If so I might be able to help you with the details of the process from our experience.
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Originally Posted by Gallois - lost in Spain
Good evening we have now moved from France and the differences are so enormous but another topic for another time. One thing that does get up my nose are their postal services. However we now live in Spain not France so just get on with it. However paying a premium of some 100% to post a letter to the UK is in my mind a criminal offence but of course the national system is perhaps a little problematical.

We have S1's from Newcastle covering us from France to Spain. Where please in Javea do we have to go to register the documents. We have NIE and the like and are ticking everything off the list.

We need to enrol in their health system (please) I am sure when all the bits and pieces are in place we will be happy? After 18 years in France it is a bit difficult
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you have to go to Denia to register as resident first - then the INSS to get SS numbers & then register on the padrón in Jávea at the Portal del Clot offices ........... then you can register at one of the 2 centros de salud in Javea
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Hi we have done the Denia bit and have NIE's. We have the S1's from Newcastle and are both over 65. What we do next and where we go in Javea is a mystery. Some say go to the building (next to the urgence) by the underground car park. Others say to the town hall (do not know where that is).

An idiots guide to what we do and where we go would really be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Gallois - lost in Spain
Hi we have done the Denia bit and have NIE's. We have the S1's from Newcastle and are both over 65. What we do next and where we go in Javea is a mystery. Some say go to the building (next to the urgence) by the underground car park. Others say to the town hall (do not know where that is).

An idiots guide to what we do and where we go would really be appreciated.
You say you have NIE's but you don't say if you have the 'residencias' - they are different as Lynnxa was saying.

You have to find the INSS office and then go to the address in Javea as per the previous post.
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for anyone wanting to find out where offices of the INSS (instituto nacional de seguridad social) are then
http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/Oficinas/index.htm
is a good place to start

for your specific requirement in Denia suggest you start at
http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/...=1&Ini=0&Org=S

which shows an office at
Paseo Saladar, 41
03700 DENIA(ALICANTE )
Teléfono(s): 96 6426004
Nº de Fax: 96 6425017
Oficina de Registro de Certificados Digitales
http://www.seg-social.es/Internet_1/...&Ini=0&Org=S#2

however, they may refer you to another office for the handling of the S1. This is where they will take in the S1, give you a copy having a rubber stamp on it, so that the original can be passed on to "central" - where they communicate with DWP who eventually will send you a letter confirming it, as will INSS. In the meantime your stamped copy is your authorisation to make use of the spanish medical system. This means you can register with a doctor - but do not give them your EHIC to play with, say you haven't got one.

as part of the Idiots Guide - remember that national organisations such as INSS are totally independent of the town hall and usually would rather be seen dead than having any relationship with them.

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Hi and thanks. Have just been here for days (literally) help in general directional terms would be great. Just simply know the supermarkets and the post office that is the extent of our knowledge.
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Again thanks the first link is nation wide with no local details. We live in Javea so perhaps I will go to the Tourist office
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Again thanks the first link is nation wide with no local details. We live in Javea so perhaps I will go to the Tourist office
I know the first link is nationwide - that is why I posted it, for others to use, although you could follow the links yourself to get to your nearest administration centre

I have given you a second link that will take you to the Alicante page from that first link, this will give you a page of local offices for the INSS in that area.

IIRC the last link is the map reference to the address I have given you

As to Tourismo - highly unlikely they will be able to help, you have made that big step and become a resident and your needs are far more deeper than that of a tourist. Although they usually do some very good maps of the town(s)

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Originally Posted by Gallois - lost in Spain
Hi we have done the Denia bit and have NIE's. We have the S1's from Newcastle and are both over 65. What we do next and where we go in Javea is a mystery. Some say go to the building (next to the urgence) by the underground car park. Others say to the town hall (do not know where that is).

An idiots guide to what we do and where we go would really be appreciated.
as Domino says, do you have NIEs or have you registered as resident? - you need to register as resident - you'll have a green A4 paper or maybe a card if you have

for the padrón you go to the Portal del Clot office which is near the Mercadona in the Old Town opposite Bookworld España

There are two Centros de Salud - the one you mention & one in the port - you can register at either - whichever is more convenient for you

Domino has given you the correct info for finding the INSS - I don't know Denia too well so can't help with directions - although I do know it's near where you'd have gone for the NIE

if you PM me I can put you in touch with some locals who help people with all the paperwork - they aren't gestores so don't charge as much, but they do interpreting & do the rounds of all the various offices with you
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when I did all this at the beginning of 2012 I went toExtranjero and got an NIE, Social Security to get a number, then to Social Security to get a Medical Number.
And IIRC it seemed to be pouring down with rain everywhere I went.
Although I took my time, took away all the forms, ensured I had enough fotocopies of my passport and copies of all the forms I filled in, it took me about 3 weeks. Under ideal conditions it may be possible to do it in 3-4 days, but you have to be prepared to sit and wait in queues.

I didn't do the Padron until later in the year, without the NIE, SS and Medico numbers you can't move your pieces on the chess board. They are the primary identity. Nearly all of Spain's systems are based around the NIE, everyone in Government can access this and this then gives them their own department information.

I just wish the UK were the same - all you should need to do is quote your NI No and the doors should open, but it doesn't work.
And people say Spain is backward not in my experience.
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Originally Posted by Domino
when I did all this at the beginning of 2012 I went toExtranjero and got an NIE, Social Security to get a number, then to Social Security to get a Medical Number.
And IIRC it seemed to be pouring down with rain everywhere I went.
Although I took my time, took away all the forms, ensured I had enough fotocopies of my passport and copies of all the forms I filled in, it took me about 3 weeks. Under ideal conditions it may be possible to do it in 3-4 days, but you have to be prepared to sit and wait in queues.

I didn't do the Padron until later in the year, without the NIE, SS and Medico numbers you can't move your pieces on the chess board. They are the primary identity. Nearly all of Spain's systems are based around the NIE, everyone in Government can access this and this then gives them their own department information.

I just wish the UK were the same - all you should need to do is quote your NI No and the doors should open, but it doesn't work.
And people say Spain is backward not in my experience.
So you've never bothered with your 'residencia' then?
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